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PostPosted: 09:17 - 06 Jul 2012    Post subject: What's this tool? Reply with quote

Hi Guys,
What is this tool he's using to cut the chain, and where to get one?

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PostPosted: 09:19 - 06 Jul 2012    Post subject: Re: What's this tool? Reply with quote

astroscope wrote:
Hi Guys,
What is this tool and where to get one?

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https://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/jj543/astroscope/Untitled.jpg

It's a dremel with a cutting disc. Google 'dremel', and you'll see just how universally available they are. I got the B&Q own-brand equivalent a while ago when my previous one died, and given that it was on sale for half the normal price, with a whole shedload of bits for it, I'm pretty chuffed with it. Still going strong.
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PostPosted: 09:32 - 06 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alternatively, buy one of these, a fraction of the cost, it'll last longer, it won't break down, and doesn't need battreries or an electrical socket!

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PostPosted: 09:33 - 06 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Although a chain tool would be more appropriate, quicker and more effective for that job.
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PostPosted: 09:49 - 06 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
Although a chain tool would be more appropriate, quicker and more effective for that job.

As would one of these if it's just for breaking the chains:
https://www.toolstream.com/assets/images/products/webbig/783173.jpg
It may need electricity and is more likely to break down that Sid's suggestion; but it does make a lot more noise and sparks Very Happy.


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PostPosted: 09:58 - 06 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:

As would one of these if it's just for breaking the chains:
https://www.toolstream.com/assets/images/products/webbig/783173.jpg
It may need electricity and is more likely to break down that Sid's suggestion; but it does make a lot more noise and sparks Very Happy.


thats what i use to slice through chains Smile

got a chain tool but thats more fun!

dremel would take too long and you'd probably break about 5 cutting discs doing it
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PostPosted: 10:07 - 06 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

He's not cutting the chain, he's taking the head off the rivet.
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PostPosted: 10:20 - 06 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hetzer wrote:
He's not cutting the chain, he's taking the head off the rivet.


Well spotted that man. Much better way to do it.

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PostPosted: 11:02 - 06 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Once he has finished grinding the head off, he'll be using a chain breaker to press the headless rivet out. The green chain in the pic is new and needs shortening, hence the non destructive way of chain splitting.


If you are just trying to remove the old chain so you can put it in the bin and replace it, use whatever destructive method you want. Hacksaw, file, bolt croppers, gas axe, nuke it from space, death star, pray to a deity etc etc. Doesn't matter.
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PostPosted: 11:05 - 06 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

DonnyBrago wrote:
Once he has finished grinding the head off, he'll be using a chain breaker to press the headless rivet out.




Or a hammer and a piece of rod, which'd be considerably cheaper.
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PostPosted: 11:13 - 06 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

in that case id just use my chain splitter Smile

had to take a link out of my trackbikes chain, didnt have to fiddle about with grinding rivet heads off, just used the tool to push it out.
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PostPosted: 11:27 - 06 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

The chain tool I've got has two attachments to push out the pin rivets - a short strong one to push the head through the link and then a longer one just to push the rest of the pin out once there isn't much resistence.
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PostPosted: 14:08 - 06 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Having the right tools to do the work is the biggest part of the job.But occasionally one has to adapt to achieve.Luckily I have the right tools and shortening and rivetting a chain is normally a few minutes work.

But I have seen people in a workshop trying to use a hammer and a nail to remove the pins without grinding off the head of the pin.This happened to me when on the Isle of Man at a dealer in Ramsey.Luckily I managed to stop the 'mechanic' before he broke my plastic rear sprocket when trying to use it as a rest.I ended up having to do the job myself.
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PostPosted: 14:36 - 06 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks Thumbs Up
Just ordered this to fit in my corded drill machine.
This should sort out the rivets, right?

https://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/jj543/astroscope/Untitled-2.jpg

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PostPosted: 14:48 - 06 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the original picture at the top of the post it looks as though the disc is being used to cut the side plate.But then on closer scrutiny it appears that the cutting disc is being used to 'grind' off the head of the rivet.Might it not be easier to get a small grinding stone so as to do the job.

Once the head of the rivet is ground off you will still need to push out the pin so that you can seperate the unwanted links.Would it not be easier to buy a chain which is the correct length in the first place?
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PostPosted: 15:10 - 06 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes, i'll be using these discs to cut off the links then use a chain press to push out the old links from the chain.
I'll use these cutting discs to cut off the extra links off the new chain, and then use the riveter to press the new links into the chain.
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PostPosted: 15:37 - 06 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's totally unecessary to grind the ends off the pins like that. A good chain tool will press the pins out.

Actually, even a crappy one will but a good one will do it more often without breaking.
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PostPosted: 15:47 - 06 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not a tool but that is. Very Happy

I always use an angle grinder on my chains. it only takes 2 seconds. it would take forever with a Dremel cutting disc.
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PostPosted: 17:01 - 06 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bought on of the cheaper blue tools from wilko's for about £20, it's shite and the cutting discs just shatter. I have ordered some of those silverline ones though, so I'll report back...when I next need to test it.
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PostPosted: 20:02 - 06 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

fatjames wrote:
I bought on of the cheaper blue tools from wilko's for about £20, it's shite and the cutting discs just shatter. I have ordered some of those silverline ones though, so I'll report back...when I next need to test it.


Definitely let me know on the test. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 21:47 - 06 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you really must, then Aldi are doing them on a special this week for £13

https://www.aldi.co.uk/uk/html/offers/offers_week28Sunday12.htm
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PostPosted: 11:03 - 13 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

astroscope wrote:
thanks Thumbs Up
Just ordered this to fit in my corded drill machine.
This should sort out the rivets, right?

https://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/jj543/astroscope/Untitled-2.jpg

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I've given up on these. They just keep revolving around the screw and cannot cut off that small link in the chain Sad
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