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Scorpion
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PostPosted: 23:07 - 12 Jul 2012    Post subject: Turning 17 in less than a month Reply with quote

Hi I am new to Motorbikes, at the moment i am currently riding a 50cc Peugeot speed fight 2 moped and i am turning 17 soon, i was just wondering what 125cc motorbike would be best as i am unsatisfied with how slow my moped goes, of course sticking to speed limits is sensible but im kind of fed up with cars overtaking me all the time, they should respect the little man sort of speak.

Any advice/recommendations on what i should do now and specifications on some nice 125's would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks In advance Smile


EDIT: which 125's are the best for cornering nicely, which 125's have a high top speed/acceleration and which 125's are the lightest?

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PostPosted: 01:05 - 13 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can anyone help me i really need advice ? :\
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PostPosted: 01:13 - 13 Jul 2012    Post subject: Re: Turning 17 in less than a month Reply with quote

Scorpion wrote:
EDIT: which 125's are the best for cornering nicely, which 125's have a high top speed/acceleration and which 125's are the lightest?[/color]


Its a 125.... compared to your ped, ANY will be a revalation... DONT sweat the small stuff! Differences between ANY are tiny.

You are on the cusp kid, the Cusp.... you are lucky, turning 17 right now. Get a husstle on and you can get a full licence with a 125 before the NEW LAWS come January, see any-one under 24 basically STUCK on 125's until they are over 24....... thats a LONG TIME....

Here and now just get ANY chuffing 125 you can take tests on; save penies for some training & tests, and get the fucking licence!

you'll be under New Drivers Act and 33bhp restriction for two years, so LOOK AFTER your licence, get something sensible after, maybe an old 250 or something, that wont encourage you to be a tit, becouse LOOSE your licence before them two years is up, you will be under the new rules to replace it......

So.... See Webby:-

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Once you have realised that if YOU go about this the right way, and get ANY OLD 125 that you can get a licence with, and worry about the LICENCE not whether a YZF-R125 is 3mph quicker than a CBR125, or goes round corners better than a YBR125, and even if it does, YOU a 'Learner' will probably be the limiting factor NOT the bike....

And while your mates are all debating whether thier Derbi 125 is cooler than some-one elses Prilla 125, or some-one elses peugot 125, or some-one elses Honda 125....

YOU, with a full licence could be on a GS500 that cost less than any of them and pisses on ALL of them.......

Could this be a plan, kid?

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PostPosted: 02:32 - 13 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

one other piece of advice dude - listen to the above advice Smile it may not be the most fun way of doing things in the short term, or make you look the coolest. but in 2 years time, you will be looking waaaaaay cooler than your mates when you have got a 'big' bike, and they are still tootling about on their tiddlers Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 03:54 - 13 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks alot guys , really appreciate your advice and i think im going to go with what you are saying, i was thinking of doing my test and then getting a fireblade 900cc (restricted to 33bhp obviously) i can get one for roughly £1750 and as the getting a bike before breakfast yeah suppose that isn't likely Razz

Hahaha so again thanks guys Smile
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PostPosted: 07:27 - 13 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scorpion wrote:
then getting a fireblade 900cc (restricted to 33bhp obviously) i can get one for roughly £1750


This. This is a bad idea

2 of many reasons below...

1.) restricting a 900cc bike to 33bhp will mean you have a heavy bike which cannot use all of its power - you would be better of with a 600cc (sv650 maybe?) for a few years, then get the fireblade when you have binned the restriction

2.) no insurance company in the uk will insure a 17 year old on a fireblade

Anyway, get license first before january then worry about a post test bike!
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PostPosted: 08:56 - 13 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can you afford to do any training? Maybe one or two lessons a week? Considering that you're a baby, it'd be a good idea to get some training. You have about 3-4 months to get a full license on a 125 - it's a big ask, but if you get your head screwed on you can crack it.

Start by booking and doing your theory test. Might as well get that out of the way whilst you're scoping out 125s. You can book it now for the day after you turn 17.

Your CBT is still valid but it'd be a good idea to have a 1st lesson on a school 125. Might take a little bit to get adjusted to manual gears. Who knows, you might absolutely hate riding motorcycles. Maybe for your 17th birthday present, get a few lessons booked at your local riding school.

Also, pay attention to whatever Teflon-Mike says. He really knows his shit.
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PostPosted: 20:24 - 13 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep, you can't get much better advice than that. I know that you want your own bike to bomb around on, and there's no better feeling than that, but focusing on the licence is the sensible thing to be doing. Nothing better than losing the L plates.
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PostPosted: 01:37 - 14 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Listen to Tef - Ex instructor AFAIK - the font of knowledge for all things pre-test
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PostPosted: 07:59 - 14 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

dude, im 17 and doing a restricted license, and trust me, you dont want to get a fire blade straight away thats mental Confused

your choice i guess,
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PostPosted: 19:12 - 19 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

The fireblade is a bad idea, restrictions suit twins more than inline 4's so an SV 650 is a great option. But still that is a lot different to a scooter.

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Don't know about cornering and handling i suppose that's all personal preference.
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PostPosted: 19:48 - 19 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

RSFanboy wrote:
Fastest - Cagiva Mito/ Arpilia RS/ Suzuki RG Fun

Not on a Learner-Licence they aren't... restrictions demand 14.5bhp max as well as 125cc max.
These bikes are only faster than other more 'sensible' Learner-Bikes if they are un-restricted, and hence NOT Learner-Legal.....
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PostPosted: 20:09 - 19 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Teflon-Mike wrote:
RSFanboy wrote:
Fastest - Cagiva Mito/ Arpilia RS/ Suzuki RG Fun

Not on a Learner-Licence they aren't... restrictions demand 14.5bhp max as well as 125cc max.
These bikes are only faster than other more 'sensible' Learner-Bikes if they are un-restricted, and hence NOT Learner-Legal.....


You're right, i am talking not restricted and if you are wanting a fast 125 its best off not being restricted because if it is restricted you will only see about 70mph, you may call that fast i don't know. It is illegal yes but as long as you don't do daft speeds past cameras or police you will be fine. 80% of old Mitos, rgs and rs' wont be restricted anyway its more likely that someone will have already took them off. Very Happy
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PostPosted: 22:42 - 19 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

RSnoobie wrote:
You're right, i am talking not restricted and if you are wanting a fast 125 its best off not being restricted because if it is restricted you will only see about 70mph, you may call that fast i don't know. It is illegal yes but as long as you don't do daft speeds past cameras or police you will be fine. 80% of old Mitos, rgs and rs' wont be restricted anyway its more likely that someone will have already took them off. Very Happy


Could apply the same logic and simply ride a Fire-Blade, you dont have licence, or valid insurance for.... bigger thrills, cheaper bills, same risk.
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PostPosted: 01:47 - 27 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Teflon-Mike wrote:
RSnoobie wrote:
You're right, i am talking not restricted and if you are wanting a fast 125 its best off not being restricted because if it is restricted you will only see about 70mph, you may call that fast i don't know. It is illegal yes but as long as you don't do daft speeds past cameras or police you will be fine. 80% of old Mitos, rgs and rs' wont be restricted anyway its more likely that someone will have already took them off. Very Happy


Could apply the same logic and simply ride a Fire-Blade, you dont have licence, or valid insurance for.... bigger thrills, cheaper bills, same risk.


Don't give me any silly idea's please... I'm resisting the urge enough as it is. I've decided to just pass my test and get the fireblade like i've wanted too, so once i turn 17 i'm going to aim to do my test in the meantime i'll keep at the theory tests online Smile
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PostPosted: 05:57 - 27 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scorpion wrote:
I've decided to just pass my test and get the fireblade like i've wanted too, so once i turn 17 i'm going to aim to do my test in the meantime i'll keep at the theory tests online Smile


In the words of the great Captain Mainwaring, "Stupid Boy".
Why ask for advice on here then pay no attention to the repeated attempts to save your life and possibly also the poor twat you are likely to hit at speed. I hope you're not in the North West as I really dont want to see you fly past, trailing shit from your leathers as you over-cook the third or fourth corner you get to.
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PostPosted: 08:31 - 27 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

From the impression I'm getting your a, and I dont me any offence, typical pedboi chav but for the sake of politically correctness I'll call you a statistic.

A Statistic wants their bike to be bigger better faster than anyone elses.

A Statistic thinks they know better than anyone else.

A Statistic enjoys riding a bike faster than they can handle.

A Statistic ends up buying a bike thats too powerful for them and ends up just that. A Statistic.

Your turning 17 soon and already have dreams of owning a 180mph super bike to overtake cars and earn respect. Owning a bike like that will not earn you respect. Sure it will from your statistic ped riding mates but in the real world cars and other bikers just see another kid on a bike. Respect on a big bike at a young age is earned by making it to an older age on a big bike without killing themselves.

Mike has put up all the information you need and I would suggest you take notice of it. Sure Mike may take 2 weeks to say something that could be said in 5 minutes but thats just his way. He does take his time to reply and his replies tend to be miles long but he is one of the few that have been on here for years that looks out for new riders and offers helpfull advice.

King has said get your test and getting a smaller bike. Again his advice is sound for the 2 reasons he has mentioned. I'll even add another 2 for you just to convince you.

3. A restricted bike will still out accelerate the majority of cars on the road and to a top speed of a little over 100.

4. When the restriction is lifted in 2 years you will be surprised at the amount of power you get from your bike that you have spent 2 years getting to know inside and out.

Think about it kid. The bike I have been riding around on now for the last 20 months or so I am still learning what the bike can do with me on it. You can learn a whole lot about your ability and the bikes ability in 2 years on the same bike. After those 2 years are up you will be more confident in yourself to handle the dreamed of Fireblade.

Added to the fact your insurance wont rape you without lube when it comes to insure a 19-20 year old on a 1000cc superbike.
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PostPosted: 09:08 - 27 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you're 17 and get a blade, I'd really like to see your insurance quotes. I'm an old twat and manage to insure a 125 and an SV650 for £89 TPF&T on a multi-bike policy. The last time I looked for a quote for a blade it was in the region of "You're having a laugh". At 17 you'll get anally raped without lube.

An SV would be a better bet. It'll take the restriction better, still do 100mph, as well as being cheaper to insure. You could always go for an NC23 or 29, although they are 20 years old, and will either be overpriced or need much fettling. The latter may prove expensive if your garage skills are lacking.

Definitely get your test done ASAP. You'll really regret it if you miss the January deadline. Just get any decent reliable 4 stroke 125 and pass your test on it. Once that's out the way get what you want, but a blade or similar screaming superbike is a bad idea for the 33bhp limit.
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PostPosted: 10:17 - 27 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Additionaly to the great advice that's been posted here already:
Get a bike that suits your build and that you're comfortable on, rather than getting a bike and learning to be comfy on it.

if you're 5ft 4" and buy a massive cruiser, well, it's not gonna be a pleasent ride, same if you're 6ft 7" and buy a tiny sports bike.
Go sit on a few before you make a choice, and see if you can maybe get a test ride (or try out a mates or whatever).

I know you want a 'Blade, but you may buy one and then realise you cant handle it for shit.
Honestly a 125cc will feel like the wind compared to your ped anyway
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PostPosted: 10:35 - 27 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Laughing why would you bother getting a fireblade if its just going to be restricted anyway? Get something sensible like a sv650 until you know what your doing...
Oh and expect cars to still overtake you on your 125 Wink
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PostPosted: 11:20 - 27 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

He just wants a Fireblade because the name sounds exciting.
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PostPosted: 13:55 - 27 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andy_Pagin wrote:
He just wants a Fireblade because the name sounds exciting.


All the kids want:

Fireblades
Ninjas
Firestorms
Gixxers

They all sound awesome, it's like they were marketed to sound cool Laughing
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PostPosted: 14:12 - 27 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paris2 wrote:
Andy_Pagin wrote:
He just wants a Fireblade because the name sounds exciting.


All the kids want:

Fireblades
Ninjas
Firestorms
Gixxers

They all sound awesome, it's like they were marketed to sound cool Laughing


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PostPosted: 15:14 - 27 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

kotachi wrote:
You're forgetting Thundercats Very Happy

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PostPosted: 03:34 - 28 Jul 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ayrton wrote:
Laughing why would you bother getting a fireblade if its just going to be restricted anyway? Get something sensible like a sv650 until you know what your doing...
Oh and expect cars to still overtake you on your 125 Wink


even if your doing 50 in a 40 following a que of cars, that stupid royal mail van will still think you can go faster and overtake, then force you to go slower than 40!!!! - although, its nice when you get up the side of them and their trapped in the que of traffic and you just filter / overtake them Smile

its not the bike, but the L's that make people overtake you...

i always have taxi's touching my back wheel as i ride home from work at about midnight, doing 50/60 in a 50 road (a46 outside stratford) so i slow down to let him pass safely, and he still doesnt pass...

people are nobheads trying to intimidate you / piss you off / etc.

but bear in mind: im 130kg, on a 125, and it still pulls off the line quicker than my Vx 1.6 twinport. fair enough, once im at 30/40, any car will pretty much piss on acceleration, but thats not where you need the speed ... once your moving Razz

- i'll give you another bit of advice : DO NOT GET AUTOMATIC / TWIST n GO !!!!

Its a change getting used to gearings, but well worth it... power is pretty much immediate on my 125, on my old T&G 125 i had to sit reving to keep the power there with brakes applied at lights etc ready to go... I sit in neutral on my geared 125, on ambeer, clutch in, left foot down, ease clutch out little throttle and away... (the way your expected to do it on the test, only make sure you down move before green Wink )
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