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All 125's (possibly with the exception of cruiser 125's) will cope with the hills just fine, as long as you're aware of the lesser power on offer. Given that you're 17 in september, I'd book your theory test NOW, and have that cleared before your birthday, as you can do that at any time, then as you've been riding a moped for a year, do a transitional course onto a geared bike after you turn 17. The choice is then yours- grab a 125 and bung around on it for a while, read (and learn!) your highway code, practise the mod 1 on a car park with cones, and book your own tests for just over £100, or do a course that will get you your restricted license. Either way, do it as soon as humanly possible before the changes in January, that will royally screw your chances of getting anything fun until you're 24.
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Get a YBR125 or similar commuter; some lessons & tests and a 'big-bike' soon as you are qualified.
Need not be SV650, but a pretty good choice, alternatives are GS500, or GPz500, CB500 or ER5.
For something slightly more sporty, GPz500 is popular choice, on tighter budget.
But personally, I'd pick an ER5 on a restricted licence, as there are more newer examples around for bargain prices, same motor, and 'simpler' lower maintenance chassis, so more likely to get a bike in better condition for your money.
NOT that there is much between them when 33bhp restricted, though even those small differences are greater than between the 125's! ____________________ My Webby'Tef's-tQ, loads of stuff about my bikes, my Land-Rovers, and the stuff I do with them!
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Mate, I'm going to give you some advice now, and it is valuable because a few years ago I was in exactly your position. So listen up because I didn't take the time to type this for nothing!
GET YOUR TEST DONE.
There is absolutely no point staying on a CBT when you can pay probably £600 and get your test done, do it ASAP because the rules are changing soon to make it harder.
Have you got gear? I wouldn't say you need bottoms because I used to wear jeans, just don't fucking crash, but get a decent leather Jacket if you haven't already got one, I have an RST one for about £100 which is absolutely great. Secondly, a nice pair of winter gloves. Don't bother with summer ones, it never gets too hot that winter ones are uncomfortable. Make sure they're warm, comfortable, well made, and waterproof. £40 should do you fine.
Finally, get a pair of boots. I bought A pair of white Alpinestars that look the tits, for about £100, but you can get RST ones for cheaper, get black if you prefer, you get less people staring at you in black I'm telling you to get boots for two reasons. One is that obviously, they protect the fuck out of your feet and ankles, the thing I would be worried most about never being able to use again apart from stupid things like dying or whole limbs. Secondly, if you wear nice trainers on a bike, changing gear etc., they get ruined. Put your trainers in a rucksack with your books, leave all your bike gear in an office of your form tutor or something, that's what I did. I had a good relationship with my form tutor, so she always made sure it was looked after.
Onto bikes. Don't get an SV650, at your age the insurance price will dick you, and you're better off learning how to ride properly on an upright, forgiving bike. If you want the power, get a Hornet, otherwise I would say get a GS500 (I picked mine up for £600), or an ER500 or CB500. The benifit of these bikes are they have great MPG and cost around £350-400 to insure. The SV will cost you about 600+. You won't have to worry about the pain in the arse of restricting a 500, and I think naked bikes look quite cool. Beleive me, I completely understand you want a faired bike, so did I at your age, but I dropped my 500 on both sides multiple times, and I'm not a small guy (6 foot 5, 90kg) due to general n00bishness.
Do a year on your 500, love it, fuck all will go wrong with it, and you won't damage it if you crash it.
Then, after you have another year NCB, a years good experience and are a year older, get a fully faired bike like I did, when you have a bit more money, and be able to ride it properly. This means you can skip out the half-faired half-arsed SV650 completely, and get on the sports bikes. I got a CBR600F, which was great.
Any questions?  ____________________ Journalist, student, egotist.
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Nah, I'm out, there's no time for that any more.
Just book your theory now, right now, get any Japanese branded 125 - commuter styled by choice - and get your tests done on it ASAP. Don't practice, don't dither, just book mod 1 and get it done.
| Kaneda wrote: | All 125's (possibly with the exception of cruiser 125's) will cope with the hills just fine |
I'd disagree, playing gear-footsie to try and keep it above 45 while a queue of rage cagers builds up behind you gets old really quickly. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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Iv just read it, so does that mean you have to pass an A1 test to ride a 125cc? or is it you have to pass the A1 test to ride 125cc without L-plates and you can take a passenger ect?
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Iv just read it, so does that mean you have to pass an A1 test to ride a 125cc? or is it you have to pass the A1 test to ride 125cc without L-plates and you can take a passenger ect?
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We dont know.... following the EU 'law' to the letter; we'd NOT be able to have ANY bike on teh road unsupervised until we had a full licence.
If we keep unsupervised L-Plating it will be on the 'promice' of a local exemption.... which we have been given... but is no garantee....
Basically; we PRESUME that from jan you'll still be able to do a CBT and ride on L's,
then when you pass A1 you can dump the L's and carry a pillion..... until the 2 year qualifying period is cranked up and you might do another test, or an upgrade course, depending on what they ACTUALLY do, when they get round to it, on an A2 bike, to get an A2 licence, that will let you have A2 bike for two years, when you'll be eligible to upgrade, again via test or course or 'something' to an unrestricted A group.
BUT? UK Gove haven't issued the drafts of actual legislation they are supposed to, so No-ONE knows for sure... ____________________ My Webby'Tef's-tQ, loads of stuff about my bikes, my Land-Rovers, and the stuff I do with them!
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| Andy_Pagin wrote: | | Kaneda wrote: | All 125's (possibly with the exception of cruiser 125's) will cope with the hills just fine, as long as you're aware of the lesser power on offer. |
No they won't. Long steep hill on a 125 you'll struggle to hold 50mph. |
Yeah..... rather subjective that... how longs long, how steeps steep, and if such a hill brings a 125's velocity down to 50, whats it doing to the velocity of other traffic?
I work on the ballast truck principle..... performance of a 'typical' 125 is in the 65mph region, which is just a tad more than HGV's are supposed to be governed at.
Means that MOST of the time, you can travel at LEAST as fast as 'most' traffic.... which will be going only as fast as the slowest vehicle in a queue, wont it!
Most 125's will therfore have 'enough' oomph to stay with A-Road speed traffic, as long as they dont expect to get into the game with leap-frogging BMW's and such.
And come hills..... slowest coach will be a heavy laden ballast truck, or a bus, or similar, and whatever speed you may bleed will be LESS than that; hence you will STILL keep up with traffic.
Only thing you wont necessarily have, is the 'oomph' for a swift-safe over-take in such circumstances.... so DON'T.
This is part of the learning process of a 125, and the limited performance demanding to get the most out of it you have to THINK more, and plan where and when to utilise what you got to eek the most out of it..... like driving a ballast truck, rather than a BMW. ____________________ My Webby'Tef's-tQ, loads of stuff about my bikes, my Land-Rovers, and the stuff I do with them!
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Mike is right. Any 125 will have enough power to keep up with most traffic. Just dont imagine that your going to be racing up steep hills, because it wont happen and definetly dont try overtake  |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 13 years, 150 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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