Help with licence

[mickvespa]

New member

i got my first vespa in 1983 ..u could ride a motorcycle upto 125cc for 2 years way back then.. at that point you had to pass your full bike test.
which at the time was a 2 part test.
however ...I passed my test on a 50cc a 1 part test which gave you Full
125cc entitlement with L plates until your licence expired ..without having to take a 2 part test ... i have ridden scooters up until 2011 on this licence .. never been refused insurance and have indeed had the odd theft claim a few years ago. i passed my car test in 2002 .

getting a new scooter this week ..and rang an ins company for a quote the guy said i was wrong about the law in 1983 and he couldnt quote me without a CBT ... even though ive never had one and rode scooters from 1983 -2011 on the same licence ....anybody help with clarification ??

[mfactor]

Long time ago, but you are sorta right ,It was not a 2 part test but you could take it on a 50cc first, passing your test on a 50cc allowed you to ride a 125cc as long as you wanted , but you did not have to take the 50cc test you could have taken it on a 125 straight away and got your full license.

Actually you might be right the 2 parter came in 82 I think. longgg time ago

whatever you are covered to ride a 125cc


Right the memories are coming back now (was a star rider instructor) the first part bit was just the cones and stuff bit like a CBT, then the second part was the normal test, if you took it on a 100cc or less you could then ride a 125cc for ever, not many did this because if you took it on a 100cc+ you got an unlimited licence.

You should then have a weird category on your licence, but aint got a clue what it would be

[mickvespa]

Ye defo a 2 parter back then .. i failed part 1 on a pk80 over in wetherby Leeds.... the bike slipped on the crappy gritty off road course they used, riding around cones .. so i thought sod it will do the straight 50cc test around the streets as the examiner stood and watched me ..the emergency stop uphill was quite difficult on a 50 ..lol

anyways as long as im ok to ride a 125 all is good ..cheers!

was a long time ago..i remember now my 80cc broke down on the test day ..and had to do it on a 50cc

[mfactor]

[mickvespa]

No A1 i think that is a FULL light motorcycle cat.
all i have is the full P entitlement from 1983 onwards...its a very grey area this licence business regarding categories ..but i know that full P gave you the right to ride a 125 on Ls until licence expired in the 80s

[mfactor]

[mickvespa]

I know

i remember i got pulled by the police a about 10 years ago and had this argument with them .. in the end they agreed that i was entitled to ride a 125 cc with L plates ... i searched the net time and time again
to get clarification but you cant get a definitive answer anywhere..

you wouldnt think it would be so difficult

[mfactor]

[mickvespa]

Ive just checked my paper counterpart and it states provisional
entitlement A on the 01/08/83 ...does this help me??

[mfactor]