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birbal
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PostPosted: 16:07 - 06 Aug 2012    Post subject: Driving in London Reply with quote

I decided to point out some mistakes which I found it almost every day on the roads of London. I hope we all learn something from this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QsouW1TXjI&hd=1

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PostPosted: 16:26 - 06 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Grow up, if you keep beeping at people for not driving perfectly someone will jump out and punch you.
Half the time your own positioning and speed was questionable and often far too close to other vehicles.
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PostPosted: 17:09 - 06 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

You seem to have captured a pretty tame ride out in London. Take yourself to the Vauxhall roundabout at around 5:30-6pm!! Never fails to make me laugh at the craziness.
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PostPosted: 17:21 - 06 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

i'd rather be raped by susan boyle than ride a bike anywhere near london Laughing
dont understand how people can find it enjoyable, after watching a few of these london riding vids i have come to the conclusion that london is full of cunts Laughing
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PostPosted: 17:40 - 06 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

salty21 wrote:
i'd rather be raped by susan boyle than ride a bike anywhere near london Laughing
dont understand how people can find it enjoyable, after watching a few of these london riding vids i have come to the conclusion that london is full of cunts Laughing


I loved riding in London. No-one goes over 30mph other than the bikes so it's not like your going to get seriously damaged. Weaving in and out of traffic to get to work is fun. I miss it.
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PostPosted: 17:44 - 06 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

those in glass houses...

At 0.34 why swerve in to the path of an oncoming car?

why didn't you go around the mini roundabout at 0.44?

But your whole level of riding is rather shocking, its a wonder how
you haven't ended up like the scooter rider.
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PostPosted: 21:35 - 06 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Definitely some examples of poor driving in there, but then again you don't always help yourself.

The incident with the white Golf was almost entirely avoidable. You can tell from quite a distance that he's thinking of changing lanes, by looking at his positioning. At that point you should have slowed down and let him make his manoevre, but instead you got far too close and confused him. His subsequent dithering was probably due to him thinking you were about to blast past on the inside.

Likewise the incident with the Yaris (although not your fault) would probably have been avoided by positioning yourself in the middle of your lane, instead of the far left-hand side.
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PostPosted: 22:59 - 06 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

salty21 wrote:
i'd rather be raped by susan boyle than ride a bike anywhere near london Laughing
dont understand how people can find it enjoyable, after watching a few of these london riding vids i have come to the conclusion that london is full of cunts Laughing

I guess you get used to it with time. And actually is not that bad for a huge city like London.
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At 0.34 why swerve in to the path of an oncoming car?

No excuse, my fault.
kernow24 wrote:
why didn't you go around the mini roundabout at 0.44?

There was nothing coming from my left, front and on the right it suppose to be one way.
kernow24 wrote:

But your whole level of riding is rather shocking, its a wonder how
you haven't ended up like the scooter rider

I don't know either. I've done so far at least 55k miles on 6 different bikes in 8 years and I never had any accident (not even a minor one). I'm not saying that I'm perfect, I'm still learning.
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The incident with the white Golf was almost entirely avoidable. You can tell from quite a distance that he's thinking of changing lanes, by looking at his positioning

I did expect that but I just want to make him aware that he should check his mirror and at least indicate. I hate people that are not using indicators and they rush to change lane or direction.
Bubbs wrote:
You seem to have captured a pretty tame ride out in London. Take yourself to the Vauxhall roundabout at around 5:30-6pm!! Never fails to make me laugh at the craziness.

I will have Vauxhall in my daily commute again from the end of september.
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PostPosted: 00:19 - 08 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

The incident with the Yaris would of sent me into rage mode.
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PostPosted: 02:24 - 08 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

yep pretty much a normal day in london traffic. Thumbs Up

its full of locals who know their way around and people coming through who ain't got a scoobies and are reading the signs for directions.


chill and relax, london traffic is dangerous enough without spending time marking other peoples faults... Laughing

fools will be fools, just avoid em and ride safe... Karma
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PostPosted: 03:53 - 08 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, It's 5:42 here and I'm bored, so I checked your video and I must say, you're one of the worst camera on the bike people I've seen. Smile

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At 0:45, aren't you supposed to go left and around the roundabout?
At 2:30, the only moment you should use your horn.
And at 3:15, typical staring person, these moments when you can't stop watching an accident are the most jeopardizing.

BTW, It quite seems like you were speeding there, so don't be so angry, that people don't see you. This riding looked like, you were some sort of accident hunter, do you work for an insurance company or what? Rolling Eyes Laughing
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PostPosted: 06:55 - 08 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

It seems that for those who never drove a bike in London will never get the idea of this video. I’m doing at least 15 miles a day in London, Monday to Sunday and when you live in a ‘jungle’ you become part of it. I will not answer any question and I’m really sorry to bother with such a stupid video. For those who has no idea how rides make their way in London, please check this video: https://youtu.be/RC3tQ03NqzE?hd=1
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PostPosted: 07:24 - 08 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

birbal wrote:
It seems that for those who never drove a bike in London will never get the idea of this video.

I live, ride and drive in London, and I still think that you're acting like a pillock. Get over yourself.
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PostPosted: 07:43 - 08 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I would never ride like this, it's too risky, we don't have here that wide roads with so nice people as you've got there and I hate town traffic. If you rode like this here, you'd be dead by now Neutral

For me it's always just 5 minutes through the town and then I'm off the city, where I ride 100+ and overtake every car, motorcycle, whatever is on the road at a moment Laughing

One thing though, fortunately you've got supermoto, so it's at least kind of safe and I like the Ace of spades Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 07:45 - 08 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

birbal wrote:
when you live in a ‘jungle’ you become part of it


Exactly.

So don't criticise the other junglists when you aren't squeaky clean yourself.
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PostPosted: 07:46 - 08 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

You ride like a twat.
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PostPosted: 08:08 - 08 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

The second video, with the supermoto is not mine. I found just an example on youtube. I don't know that guy but I just want to point how riders drive in London for those who doesn't have a clue.
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PostPosted: 08:19 - 08 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why do you position yourself so far to the left when you ride??
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PostPosted: 08:25 - 08 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

salty21 wrote:
...after watching a few of these london riding vids i have come to the conclusion that london is full of cunts Laughing

...and not all of them ride bikes or drive cars shock! Shocked Wink
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PostPosted: 09:03 - 08 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

shereen wrote:
Why do you position yourself so far to the left when you ride??


That's why: https://youtu.be/9QsouW1TXjI?hd=1&t=2m45s
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PostPosted: 09:29 - 08 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

birbal wrote:
shereen wrote:
Why do you position yourself so far to the left when you ride??


That's why: https://youtu.be/9QsouW1TXjI?hd=1&t=2m45s

If you meant being overtaken by the red car (link corrected - incident at 2m30s) then IMHO if you had dominated your lane position more that would not have happened. Can see the car approaching in your mirror anyhow.

Nobody is perfect and stuff happens. Suggest a defensive riding course would be good tuition for many people.

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PostPosted: 11:07 - 08 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

birbal wrote:
shereen wrote:
Why do you position yourself so far to the left when you ride??


That's why: https://youtu.be/9QsouW1TXjI?hd=1&t=2m45s


But you were riding for 20 seconds before the lane divided, and that is just from what the video showed. Totally incorrect lane positioning IMO.

To be honest the rest of the video is just general hazards riders encounter on a day to day basis - not just in London. I dont live in London and encounter worse than that most times I go out on the bike.
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PostPosted: 17:54 - 08 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

i know that stretch of road running up to Streatham quite well.

just up ahead is a left turn into the lido i think and almost bang opposite is a traffic lighted right turn lane

if i had of been in that car and seen a bike poodling along slower then me i would have been inclined to pass you ...

and i may have then indicated and slowed as i had heard some bikers can be erratic in how they ride..
just to be sure you didn't speed up as i passed you and pulled in to get around that pedestrian bollard up ahead.

( Got to think as a car driver that looks like you don't want anyone to pass you AND you that's why you speeded up.... Crying or Very sad )



our riding is all about perception.
but what we see may not be what others see.


can see why the car went past and can see why you sped up,
but by being more masterful in that lane they may NOT have tried to overtake AND
if you had of slowed after they passed you would have protected yourself
MORE from accident or injury then looking daggers at them as you did..(just saying Smile )

like shereen says any big city throws up shit/selfish drivers,
we just got more of em... Laughing
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PostPosted: 18:21 - 08 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I sometimes get the urge to video my commute, then I see stuff like this and the feeling passes.
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PostPosted: 19:36 - 12 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I DO video my commute most days. Not every day, but the majority.

I ride into London every day with the expectation of witnessing poor driving, but actually it’s pretty rare that I see anything worth getting worked up about. Driving standards in London may be a tad on the aggressive side, but largely predictable and within acceptable legal boundaries.

I overwrite my videos within a couple of days unless there’s something worth keeping. I think I’ve only kept 3 videos this year. Hundreds of hours of footage and barely anything to raise anyone’s blood pressure.

However, regardless of the typical BCF reaction of blaming the OP for their own misfortune, the red car semi-overtake would raise my piss towards boiling point. Smile
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