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It is interesting, here we've got different language and people also use term: drive to describe what a person does on a motorcycle.
Basically I'd say, you ride on something, you drive something. So if you lose the 'on' then it's easily interchangeable.  ____________________ '87 Honda XBR 500, '96 Kawasaki ZX7R P1, '90 Honda CB-1, '88 Kawasaki GPz550, MZ 150 ETZ
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When I got a diesel car I still used to say "I need petrol", I had a diesel for 3 years and don't think I ever said or thought "I need diesel", it was always petrol. Saying drive instead of ride is another old habit of mine, I make the effort to correct myself on this forum but amongst friends/in my own thoughts I still refer to myself as going out for a drive on the bike.  ____________________ 1998 CG125 (Sold) CB500 [+ Clio 172]
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map wrote: | Bendy wrote: | ...are people just stupid?... |
I'd go with just lazy.
Too lazy to use the correct grammar and the correct vocabulary.
It gets by because people know what you mean without it being correct. |
It also sounds like, when you go for a ride, then it means that you're not going to do anything. But if you drive something, then it sounds like you're the boss and people quite say that motorcycle rider just sits on the bike and doesn't do anything at all
Also If you watch any news (here), they always say driver of the motorcycle, no one ever said rider on tv. Well, to be fair sports programs do use the proper word. ____________________ '87 Honda XBR 500, '96 Kawasaki ZX7R P1, '90 Honda CB-1, '88 Kawasaki GPz550, MZ 150 ETZ
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I say fuel, unless I specifically refer to petrol or diesel.
I'd be more concerned about someone saying they were going to put "petrol" in my car than I would if they wanted to "drive" my bike . |
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It does seem an Americanism....
But lets have a ponder on this one....
Do you have a 'Riding Licence'?
No, so what it it? Its a DRIVING licence, with entitlement to 'Ride' a motorbike.
As a kid, ever have your dad ask when he went out "Want to come for a ride in the car?"
So if you can 'Ride' in a car, why cant you 'Drive' on a motorbike?
Lets go back to origin of terms.
What is 'Driving'?
You DROVE herds of live-stock; sheep, cattle, pigs or geese.
"I'm going to drive the Cow to Market & trade it for some magic beans"
When you got to the Market / Fair....
"I had a RIDE on the Swing Boat"
Implication, is to DRIVE is to exert control on a journey, to RIDE is to be an intern 'passenger' on a vehicle.....
So to SOME degree, who-ever has their hands on the controls is probably more correctly 'Driving' whether its a car or a motorbike.... while a passenger is riding, because they aren't at the controls.
I do find it rather annoying that people describe piloting a bike as 'Driving'.... and it probably is, ignorance, laziness, americanism, rather than anything else, though inadvertently 'more' correct use of terminology.....
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When choosing the correct definition, I'm sure the fact that you have to balance a bike comes into it somewhere.
Personally, I can't stand it when people, esp news presenters, pronounce Afghanistan "Afghanistaaahn And the phrase - "Let me make this clear", or, "I have to say....", and posh people using the word ""Gutted", but my pet hate is when people use the word ""Literally" incorrectly, as in " I was literally gutted". Ooohh, that gets my goat  ____________________ Space Is Deep
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Yes, you've got driving licence, which allows you to drive a motorized vehicle.
So, you drive a motorcycle, but you ride on it. If you use 'ride' as a noun, then you can have it (ride) in a car and it's still correct.
Do you see the difference?
It's just my theory, I don't know you're language that well so I can't make any conclusions here, but it pretty much makes sense to me. ____________________ '87 Honda XBR 500, '96 Kawasaki ZX7R P1, '90 Honda CB-1, '88 Kawasaki GPz550, MZ 150 ETZ
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Teflon-Mike wrote: | .....
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 13 years, 16 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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