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EazyDuz
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PostPosted: 17:41 - 18 Aug 2012    Post subject: Worst security device ever Reply with quote

So i used to use one of these to alarm disklock my bike:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ALARMED-MOTION-SENSOR-PADLOCK-MOTORBIKE-SHED-ALARM-LOCK-/230603111403?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item35b1043beb

https://i605.photobucket.com/albums/tt134/Kurt_V/SV206750.jpg

Just dropped it onto a hardwood floor at waist height and this is the result:

https://i605.photobucket.com/albums/tt134/Kurt_V/SV206751.jpg

https://i605.photobucket.com/albums/tt134/Kurt_V/SV206753.jpg

https://i605.photobucket.com/albums/tt134/Kurt_V/SV206752.jpg

Avoid.
While on the subject, anyone recommend a decent disklock, or are they all shit?
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PostPosted: 18:25 - 18 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've had an ABUS Granite lock and chain for 20+++ years, even though I have had bikes stolen I have had them back with the same lock and chain still in place, Note that the bikes have been lifted away as the bike wasn't chained to something solid and only locked to it's self.
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PostPosted: 19:11 - 18 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

What the fuck do you expect for £10? Especially when you have to consider postage, ebay and paypal fees. You probably actually paid about £3 for it.
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PostPosted: 19:33 - 18 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

_Iain_ wrote:
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Alarm will fail after a few months use, Or quicker in winter.

Seen so many of them fuckup now
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PostPosted: 20:30 - 18 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Had a Xena Disc lock alarm, that failed within 2 months.
Currently Using a Datatool Devil & looping a chain through the shackle when I'm out.
Not alot to go wrong with either piece Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 20:34 - 18 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

easy the pin has just fell out thats all, theyre not bad for the money, you get what you pay for ateotd buddy
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PostPosted: 20:49 - 18 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got an Oxford Boss alarmed disc lock. Whilst the lock seems to be pretty solid and I use it every night, the alarm is set off by rain so I haven't set it since about the first week I got it.

Thinking of getting a cyclone.
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PostPosted: 21:00 - 18 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bought a similar lock to that Blue Spot as a bit of extra security more than anything.
Seems solid enough, makes a racket when moved.
Not dropped it yet though and I'm just glad the floor around the back of my house is concrete rather than hardwood. Whistle
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PostPosted: 21:19 - 18 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Currently using a Motrax Grenade disk lock, and although it feels like a very sturdy unit (and it's survived a number of drops), I'm under no illusion that it would stand up to much abuse.
It's not much more than a visual deterrant, I just think it looks pretty cool! Embarassed
https://www.sportsbikeshop.co.uk/product_images/motrax_grenade-disc-lock_gdl_detail1.jpg
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PostPosted: 21:34 - 18 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

AlexW wrote:
_Iain_ wrote:
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Alarm will fail after a few months use, Or quicker in winter.

Seen so many of them fuckup now


I tend to disagree, I have one from September 2010 still working grand Thumbs Up

On the subject though, I have just bought some massive D lock, a chain and a cover/set of girl rape alarms and rigged them Laughing
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PostPosted: 00:47 - 19 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

_Iain_ wrote:
Fuck the disklock, buy a cyclone alarm.

Cost me the same as my oxford disc lock, is 10x louder, actually works as a deterrant. Dont have to fuck about taking it off before i go anywhere. etc etc. Oh, and the oxford's electronics fried after around two months. Wasnt impressed tbh.

Connect red wire to + on battery, connect black wire to - on battery, use stickypad supplied to attach speaker to somewhere on the bike and plug speaker into the side of the box.

Remote start/flashing indicators/immobiliser also are features, however will take a bit longer to hook up. Total install time was around 30mins on the GS500 with all the extras connected propperly & the extra speaker as i payed the extra £2 for the swearing version Laughing Thumbs Up


hahaha just dont do what i did:

left bike in 1st gear (stupidly forgot to neutral it, first time though) went to use remote start and bike decided to run away from me, luckily only a foot or two and was still standing after lol
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PostPosted: 01:52 - 19 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

nigger tits wrote:
the best security device you can buy is a concealed hand gun, but you gave up your gun rights so enjoy your armed criminal population


so what you are suggesting as the best option is . to buy a gun that is already concealed .

so what you mean is

buy an item that is housing a gun hidden inside it . and then you say we gave up our gun rites ?

so let me get this straight. if we had gun rites why would i need to conceal my gun in the first place

its all irrelevant .

this is a forum for bikes not political or personal issues. unless its bike related we do not want to hear from you
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PostPosted: 02:00 - 19 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

So we should stand guard over the bike all the time? Derp.
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PostPosted: 06:46 - 19 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have an Oxford Boss lock that I've been pleased with over 16 months of use. Seems robust enough. £30-£40 IIRC. Can't imagine it crumbling after a drop from waist height.

Can't compete with Skudd's 20 years, though!!
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PostPosted: 07:04 - 19 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

i have a similer padlock to the first one on my garage


its never broken yet had it about two years
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PostPosted: 07:12 - 19 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

AlexW wrote:
_Iain_ wrote:
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Alarm will fail after a few months use, Or quicker in winter.

Seen so many of them fuckup now


Strange, I've got 2 Cyclone alarms. One has had daily use in all weathers since the end of 2008, the other has been fitted since June '09 and mainly gets used in Summer. Neither have caused any problem and are very much alive.
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PostPosted: 07:27 - 19 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

andyscooter wrote:
i have a similer padlock to the first one on my garage


its never broken yet had it about two years


Dont drop it lol.

Its worrying how ebay have sold over 1000 of these. You could probably smash the lock in with a hammer in seconds.
Shame because the alarm was deafeningly loud
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PostPosted: 08:01 - 19 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Use an Oxford Screamer here. £30 Disk lock alarm from Infinity motorcycles.
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PostPosted: 09:06 - 19 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Out and about I use one of these combined with the bikes cat1 alarm, seams to do the trick and is probably tougher than most disc locks.

Edit, there's one on a well known auction site for around £20, more than I paid for mine but a bit less than the RRP.
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PostPosted: 10:02 - 19 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Word of warning about the Xena XX14. I have found that over the last few months the alarm unit would go off randomly, even when it was not on my bike!?

When riding through Wolverhampton yesterday the thing starts going off whilst under my bike seat. It's loud enough to get you noticed as you ride by members of the public Mad

So I pull over to a side street and and spend 25 minutes trying to stop this thing going off in my hand every 15 seconds............ A fooking nightmare Embarassed

Solution:

Smashing the thing off the tarmac until the alarm unit popped out and I could remove the battery. Despite the rough treatment the lock construction remains unaffected so it's still functional as a detterent. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 15:31 - 19 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

+1 for the cyclone.

I've had my one for 2 years now. had it on 3 different bikes. fantastic thing.

The remote start is a waste of time, but the flashing indicators is brilliant, as well as the flashing LED as a visual deterrent if someone has a look over it. The immobiliser is also a great feature if you're gonna use it.

I've stuck a 135db alarm on it which is seriously loud. had it go off a couple times outside when there's no wind or rain etc so i'd like to believe it is working Laughing

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PostPosted: 20:30 - 19 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 22:03 - 19 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

On topic my lad has one similar to the OP. I think it was from Aldi or Lidl. However it is used only as an alarm if the bike is moved. I wouldn't want to trust it for any actual security.

He has one of the Datatool disc locks as an actual disc lock.
https://images.esellerpro.com/2189/I/224/27/Datatool-Devil-1000-Motorbike-Shackle-Disc-Lock-1.jpg
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