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All you have to do is fold it, bent mot in one easy step.
Or just simply make it safe so that you or the person you sell it to isn't likely to get killed on it and pay £25 for a real one ____________________ Nobby the Bastard: How yo tell the difference between the actual japanese and her just screaming because she's had live fish stuck up her arse? [url=https://www.nicks-shop.co.uk/bcf-goodies-15-c.aspGet BCF stickers and things here[/url] Reflective helmet stickers - Legal requirement in france - Clicky |
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What will it fail on if tested correctly?
There are things which my car has failed on and been rectified by the garage, most I accepted and am happy to have sorted, but there are a few which were ridiculous.
Amongst others, some of the reasons my cars have failed on were:
- spare tyre not inflated (having NEVER used it on an 8yr old car, the air had got out). SOLUTION, remove from car, then retest. No requirement to have a spare tyre, but if there is one it has to be legal.
- sticker or obstruction in Zone A of windscreen (magic tree hanging from the mirror). SOLUTION, remove it then retest.
- ABS light on (the traction control and ABS ran off the same fuse, but the TC was awful and would cut the power at the worst times, such as pulling out of a junction or onto a roundabout, so just removed the fuse). Could not get a reason WHY this was a fail, but solution was to fit a fuse and retest.
- EML light due to a problematic wastegate on the turbo. Contacted VOSA as well as other MOT testers and they told me it should not have failed, garage refused to accept this until I got the VOSA person on the phone for me. Still needed a retest once the CV joint gaiter was changed though.
- Rear wiper. I had removed the wiper arm/blade, wiper motor, and plugged the hole with a rubber grommet. There was no longer a rear wiper fitted, rather than one thats fitted and not working. They failed it (on that as well as other things). Once I told them I'd be taking the car somewhere else for repairs and retest losing them over £1000 they said they'd pass it with it like that, so the work was done on other stuff, and the service, timing chain and clutch, passed the retest.
All the ones I mentioned above are technicalities and have nothing to do with the car being safe and roadworthy or not.
Theres a lot less things for a bike to fail on though, and the things it could fail on could me more catastrophic too |
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I know of a flexible tester who seems to just look at it and say that its fine.
Has passed the last 3 things I've given to him...knowing full well there were issues that I would sort later anyway..but time had run out as it were.
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i was not going to drink this weekend . but i can see myself slipping into a bender ..... . |
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| Ben-B wrote: | What will it fail on if tested correctly?
There are things which my car has failed on and been rectified by the garage, most I accepted and am happy to have sorted, but there are a few which were ridiculous.
Amongst others, some of the reasons my cars have failed on were:
- spare tyre not inflated (having NEVER used it on an 8yr old car, the air had got out). SOLUTION, remove from car, then retest. No requirement to have a spare tyre, but if there is one it has to be legal.
- sticker or obstruction in Zone A of windscreen (magic tree hanging from the mirror). SOLUTION, remove it then retest.
- ABS light on (the traction control and ABS ran off the same fuse, but the TC was awful and would cut the power at the worst times, such as pulling out of a junction or onto a roundabout, so just removed the fuse). Could not get a reason WHY this was a fail, but solution was to fit a fuse and retest.
- EML light due to a problematic wastegate on the turbo. Contacted VOSA as well as other MOT testers and they told me it should not have failed, garage refused to accept this until I got the VOSA person on the phone for me. Still needed a retest once the CV joint gaiter was changed though.
- Rear wiper. I had removed the wiper arm/blade, wiper motor, and plugged the hole with a rubber grommet. There was no longer a rear wiper fitted, rather than one thats fitted and not working. They failed it (on that as well as other things). Once I told them I'd be taking the car somewhere else for repairs and retest losing them over £1000 they said they'd pass it with it like that, so the work was done on other stuff, and the service, timing chain and clutch, passed the retest.
All the ones I mentioned above are technicalities and have nothing to do with the car being safe and roadworthy or not.
Theres a lot less things for a bike to fail on though, and the things it could fail on could me more catastrophic too |
Where the fuck have you been taking your car?!
The only one thats a real failure is the abs one lol (magic tree isnt that big)
Sounds like they dont know fuck all about whats actually in the mot... ____________________ Cbr1100xx blackbird gone, mk4 golf gt tdi chav now
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The obstruction one is true, but most testers just ignore it. If i get mr taxi man with his prayer beads and mat hanging off his rear view mirror i just normally remove it and sling it on the seat. But for a magic tree, thats harsh.
The abs one is straight forward, if the lights on it fails. Unless you have removed the whole system (pump)
Method of Inspection
Reason for rejection
This inspection applies to all systems whether original equipment, ‘optional’ or after-market.
Electronic Stability Control Systems are commonly referred to as ESC, but may also be known as ESP or some other acronym.
The dashboard warning lamp for these systems may take various forms and a vehicle should only be failed when the tester is certain that an illuminated lamp indicates an ESC malfunction. This may require reference to the owner’s handbook if one is available.
When testing vehicles that have ABS fitted the road wheels should not be allowed to rotate clear of the standing surface with the ignition on as this can cause the ABS system to indicate a fault which may require specialist equipment to rectify.
If an ABS or ESC system has been intentionally rendered inoperative, the whole system must be removed. However, this does not apply to sensor rings or other ABS components which are an integral part of another component e.g. brake disc or drive shaft.
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If the vehicle is fitted with an ABS and/or ESC system, check that the relevant warning lamp(s):
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is fitted
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illuminates
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does not indicate a fault
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in the case of ABS only, follows the correct sequence of operation.
Note: The sequence varies with the type of system. Refer to VSI, manufacturers or other reliable data, e.g. purpose produced charts, books, etc.
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Check the presence and condition of all visible ABS and ESC system components.
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Check the condition of all visible ABS and ESC system wiring.
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Check all ABS and ESC system components for any inappropriate repair or modification.
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Check the condition and operation of the switch (if fitted) to turn the ESC system on and off.
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A warning lamp:
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is missing
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does not illuminate
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indicates a fault
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for ABS does not follow the correct sequence of operation.
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An ABS or ESC system component obviously missing or excessively damaged.
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ABS or ESC system wiring excessively damaged.
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An ABS or ESC system component inappropriately repaired or modified.
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An ESC system switch insecure or faulty. ____________________ Cbr1100xx blackbird gone, mk4 golf gt tdi chav now
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Why would anyone who has the benefit of a "friendly" MOT test centre grass them up on a public forum - "that's right, yeah, just head over to ABC Mot Centre, they'll sort you out! My handlebar and brakes fell off my cbr, they just passed it for me".
That'll last.
I know that if I had one, and I'm not saying i do , I'd keep it schtum |
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| Nb wrote: | The obstruction one is true, but most testers just ignore it. If i get mr taxi man with his prayer beads and mat hanging off his rear view mirror i just normally remove it and sling it on the seat. But for a magic tree, thats harsh.
The abs one is straight forward, if the lights on it fails. Unless you have removed the whole system (pump)
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Ah now I understand, the garage seemed to put it under an obscure category, can't remember exactly what, but I couldn't see how the failure they put it under was correct and they didn't justify it anyway, but now it makes sense, they just put it under the wrong thing I think.
Should point out that the magic tree was removed for the retest once they had done some other work, like change the front wishbone... so it wasn't like I had to pay for a new retest, and it wasn't just retested because of the magic tree. |
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SO OP wants a dodgy MOT and previously wanted dodge insurance documents.
OP has also claimed to have a snap on tool kit and know how to use it.
Is OP not to bright, a member of the forces of Justice or just a potato?  |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 13 years, 135 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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