Homeowner shoots burgalars and is arrested.

[kawakid]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2197149/BREAKING-NEWS-Homeowner-wife-arrested-suspected-burglars-shot-break-in.html

I hope he is not charged, I would have done exactly the same thing.

He had a legally owned gun, multiple burgalars, remote location, he did the right thing.
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[unitynotsocri...]

He did'nt do quite the right thing ,he should have blown their balls off and pissed on them while waiting for the emergency services.
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[Redoko]

IMO he should (should the burglars be convicted as such) be let off scot free.

Done a service to the community and the wider human race in general. They might think again next time.
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[kawakid]

There was zero mention of this on bbc or sky news. Which is weird.
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[J4mes]

I think he'll be fine as long as he can justify why he used his gun.

If it was locked in the cabinet (or secured as detailed in his licence) then he should be ok, if he had it stood behind the door or laid on the floor beside the bed due to the previous 4 break-ins, then he may have a problem as it becomes premeditated.

Depends if he shot them in the back or front too....

[U_W v2.0]

he'll probably get locked up. most other instances of this happening result in the shooter being locked up.
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[Im-a-Ridah]

Government and police don't seem to interested in the victims of crime. Anyone would think they were more interested in taking guns from civilians than from criminals.

[Marmalade]

The men were on his property with the intention of doing wrong.

This is all the police need to look at and he should be released immediately.

They'll probably try to claim compensation from the cottage owners next.
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[Rogerborg]

Hang on, they do need to establish what happened. It's not like Midsomer Murders where the villains always say "You'll never prove it, Barnaby - oh all right, I did it, plus here's all the other loose ends that need tidying up for dramatic closure."

That said, he should be billing them for cleaning their blood off the carpet.
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[N cee thirty]

The burglars ringing 999 to treat gunshot wounds just shows they know they'll get away with it as they don't need to hide anymore.
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[Joncrete Cungle]

I got up at 12:20am and took my shotgun from the cabinet and some cartridges. I was on my way to sit up for a troublesome fox that had been killing chickens / lambs. Upon descending the stairs I became aware of what appeared to be a number of criminals breaking in to my home. I shouted several warnings that I was armed yet the criminals ignored my warnings and proceeded to break in to my home. As they advanced en masse towards me I fired at them in self defence your Honour.

[Andy_Pagin]

[Im-a-Ridah]

[Rogerborg]

[chris-red]

Let him go and give me an OBE, IMO if they are on his property and shouldn't be I'd give em both barrels. As and aside 4 blokes to rob a house sounds like overkill, it could have been something much worse.

If there is someone in my house at night at they shouldn't be I would hit them with something very heavy until they stop moving. Reasonable force goes out the fucking window when my families safety comes into it.
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[J4mes]

Will only wash if he doesn't have a moderated rimfire or centrefire rifle with fox/vermin on his ticket.

As a farm hand, living on a farm, I'd imagine he has.

No court/jury in the land is going to believe such a coincidence unfortunately

[Rogerborg]

[Llama-Farmer]

Whilst I agree to the right to defend your property, I believe it needs to be done with the least amount of force necessary and appropriate.

For example, upon catching a burglar in your house, telling them to get out. Many of them probably would run if they got spotted.

Saying you're armed and will fire, then firing a warning shot (where practical) prior to actually shooting them.


But to spot them and shoot them straight away when there is no immediate and direct threat to you or your family is wrong.


It's the general rule of self defence, fight fire with fire... if someone punches you in the face and you grab a knife and stab them to death, that is disproportional. If someone pulls a knife on you and attempts to attack you, and you grab say a brick or something and smash them round the head killing them, that's a reasonable level of self defence.


It's an awkward and tough debate though, who decides what is a certain level of threat and an equally reasonable level of self defence or defence of ones property?

[Llama-Farmer]

[smegballs]

When there is multiple people breaking into your house late at night, do you want to make the assumption that they are only burglars? They could be just burglars, or they could be rapists, torturers, murderers etc etc. Do you want to risk your wife/kids/dogs safety on the premise that they are "just burglars"?

Funnily enough in most US law, you as a shooter will be busted for firing a "warning shot" or "shot him in the leg". So their reasoning goes use of a firearm is lethal force. To justify using lethal force you need to be in fear of your life. If you genuinely fear for your life you shoot for center of mass, not in the air or try to line up a silly leg shot.

[Im-a-Ridah]

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