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PostPosted: 13:18 - 30 Sep 2012    Post subject: MOD 1, distance between cones on slalom and figure of eight? Reply with quote

I was just looking at a PDF of the MOD1 course and it says the distance between cones for the slalom is 4.5 M, and between the cones for the figure of eight its 6 M. I just got a tape measure out and I can't believe it those measurements must be a mistake. i've been practicing my figure at at a car park (short end of spaces for slalom, long edge of space for Fof8. Is the PDF wrong. I would post a link but I can't remember which thread on BCF I got it from :-/
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PostPosted: 13:43 - 30 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those measurements are correct. The 6m for the fig 8 is immaterial as you can go as wide as you like Wink
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PostPosted: 13:46 - 30 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good grief if that's right I really need to get my theory out of the way and knock the MOD1 on the head, a drunk blind chiken on a unicyle could do a slalom and figure eight on a course with those dimensions! Smile
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PostPosted: 14:21 - 30 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you are practicing, set the course up smaller than the dimensions so it will be easier for you on test day
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PostPosted: 14:53 - 30 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Boozehawk wrote:
Good grief if that's right I really need to get my theory out of the way and knock the MOD1 on the head, a drunk blind chiken on a unicyle could do a slalom and figure eight on a course with those dimensions! Smile



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PostPosted: 16:24 - 30 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Boozehawk wrote:
Good grief if that's right I really need to get my theory out of the way and knock the MOD1 on the head, a drunk blind chiken on a unicyle could do a slalom and figure eight on a course with those dimensions! Smile


For someone that hasn't even done the theory test, that's a bold statement. BUT I agree with you... Absolutely NOTHING in the mod1 test is difficult, at all..BUT, when you're under the scrutiny of an examiner and in test conditions, nerves start to play a part and sometimes you can do things you don't normally do.

I wouldn't mind betting that you now think these distances are huge, cos you're imagining them in your head, but i bet when you see the cones on the day you'll think "jeez, them distances look smaller" its all perception.

The distances are actually quite wide, but if you hit the first cone at the wrong speed or angle and the have to brake or accelerate, all of a sudden things can go wrong.
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PostPosted: 17:50 - 30 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

The distances seem huge because i've been practicing using carparking spaces which are a lot smaller. I actually feel more confident about the Mod 1 than the theory as I feel I have more control over what happens on the Mod1. After all on the theory you have no control what questions you're asked Smile
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PostPosted: 18:00 - 30 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your thinking is slightly flawed id say Smile Mod1 plenty of unknowns and things to go wrong specially with the old nerves etc

Theory is just questions you know what your going get and you can apply common sense if you don't know the answer..

So i would say you have more control over the theory Wink
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PostPosted: 18:07 - 30 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Boozehawk wrote:
The distances seem huge because i've been practicing using carparking spaces which are a lot smaller. I actually feel more confident about the Mod 1 than the theory as I feel I have more control over what happens on the Mod1. After all on the theory you have no control what questions you're asked Smile



I guarantee you 100% that when you're sat there on you're bike waiting to do the slalom you will change your mind.

You are learning with something flat (car parking lines) as soon as the cones are on there sticking up, the distance between the cones appears shorter.

I admire your confidence though, if you take that into the compound with you, I'm sure you'll do well.
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PostPosted: 18:43 - 30 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

thepuma wrote:
I guarantee you 100% that when you're sat there on you're bike waiting to do the slalom you will change your mind.

You are learning with something flat (car parking lines) as soon as the cones are on there sticking up, the distance between the cones appears shorter.


So do your car park practice with coke can's, 2L cider bottles, beach balls, blow up dolls or inflatable sheep* etc sticking up.

It's all in your head in any case. There's no need to add any stress.


* Spice up that mod 1 practice, but if you do we want the pics Razz
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PostPosted: 18:58 - 30 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

ThoughtControl wrote:
thepuma wrote:
I guarantee you 100% that when you're sat there on you're bike waiting to do the slalom you will change your mind.

You are learning with something flat (car parking lines) as soon as the cones are on there sticking up, the distance between the cones appears shorter.


So do your car park practice with coke can's, 2L cider bottles, beach balls, blow up dolls or inflatable sheep* etc sticking up.

It's all in your head in any case. There's no need to add any stress.


* Spice up that mod 1 practice, but if you do we want the pics Razz


Blow up sheep are ideal. Laughing
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PostPosted: 19:36 - 30 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's a Poundland next to Sainsburys carpark i'll see if they have any large flourescent dildos.

Blow up sheep in deed! Ya bunch of plebs Smile
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PostPosted: 19:38 - 30 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used google maps to look at the test site layout. It all looked so easy. I remember walking the mock test site and thinking that's easy. Saw it on paper - pah how difficult can it be. Got on the bike - a crappy, clumsy GS500 and all of a sudden it was my worst nightmare! Three failed tests, a bottle of bachs remedy, I nailed it the fourth time Smile
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PostPosted: 20:33 - 30 Sep 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

jeddy11 wrote:
Your thinking is slightly flawed id say Smile Mod1 plenty of unknowns and things to go wrong specially with the old nerves etc

Theory is just questions you know what your going get and you can apply common sense if you don't know the answer..

So i would say you have more control over the theory Wink


MOD1 plenty of unknowns??

Of course there isn't!

You know the dimensions, the surface is high grip and dead flat (if you are testing at an MPTC), you are alone with the examiner (this is the only thing you can't really practice) in a cordoned off area = no other unpredictable road users.

You know the minimum speed requirements for the e stop and swerve avoidance exercises (bit more difficult on a 125cc) but gear 2 and smooth, progressive acceleration is all thats needed - easy Smile
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PostPosted: 23:38 - 30 Sep 2012    Post subject: Re: MOD 1, distance between cones on slalom and figure of ei Reply with quote

Boozehawk wrote:
I just got a tape measure out and I can't believe it those measurements must be a mistake. i've been practicing my figure at at a car park (short end of spaces for slalom, long edge of space for Fof8.


this is exactly how i played it when i was practicing.... slaloming the bay ends etc, and fig of 8 along the bays...

when i got onto my bike to actually for for the slalom on the test i couldnt believe the space i had to play with. did it at about 5-10mph, but recon an "experienced" rider could do it at a much higher speed. (not saying i could of Razz)

i did increase my speed for the fig 8, and REMEMBER: OBSERVATIONS ON FIG 8...

as you turn right, check right, and left, check left ETC...treaat the fig 8 as a bit of filtering through traffic etc (no point gaining minors for not looking, when you got plenty of chance to look Razz)

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I agree wth the nerves, I was so confident of passing, but one cock up, and its all gone... foot down mid manouver is a serious fault... keep your feet on the pegs... DO NOT PUT THEM DOWN UNLESS YOUR FINISHED AND STOPPING...

Also, my examiner kept asking me to put my bike into neutral... i think he was checking that i'd stopped in 1st gear, but i never recieved any minors... (only 2 serious - one for foot down on u turn, and one for locking back wheel on e stop. - which is obviously worse Razz )

also, be aware of cars practicing bay parking if they are doing it i the test centre... IF YOU SPOOK A CAR YOU ARE DOING A SERIOUS FAULT!...

as soon as you touch your bike, even outside the test area, you are on your test, until the point where you get off your bike after the test in a bay.

(also, i dont think he liked the idea that i got off my bike, and pushed it backwards into the bay AFTER my test, but i didnt want to go wide over some oily spill to park it forwards...

ASSESS Where you will park whilst he is opening the gates... (forward planning) and just park forwards...
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PostPosted: 06:50 - 01 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers I didn't realise you have to do Obs' while doing the Fof8.
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PostPosted: 07:06 - 01 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Boozehawk wrote:
Cheers I didn't realise you have to do Obs' while doing the Fof8.


You don't while doing it...you do it before you pull away for the slalom.
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PostPosted: 10:21 - 01 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Boozehawk wrote:
Cheers I didn't realise you have to do Obs' while doing the Fof8.


The test area is treated as a live road for the purpose of the Mod1 - so observations are needed.

The only unknown on the day are your nerves...
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PostPosted: 10:43 - 01 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah, so you stop at the end of the slalom? I thought you just powered into it Smile
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I've been doing some practice for mod 1. One of my local industrial estates has a bakery and I've been using the bread crates for slalom and fig 8. So far so good. My main worry is the fast manuevers (swirve & E stop). Not for stopping or swerving (I practice swerving around speed bumps), it's the acceleration rate that worries me as I don't gun it very often and the acceleration is quite foreign for me. My only practice I'm getting to accelerate is from lights on the rare occasion there is nothing in front of me. I've. Even practising my "U" turn on the ground that I passed my CBT. I tried and failed miserably for two weeks so decided to measure the distance and found the CBT area to be 2.2metres narrower than test distance.

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PostPosted: 13:52 - 01 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

First thing i do every morning when i get on my bike is a curb to curb U-turn, i dont have to but its a good way to start the day, as long as my oposite neighbours have been good enough not to park over the road from me Smile
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PostPosted: 14:22 - 01 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Boozehawk wrote:
Ah, so you stop at the end of the slalom? I thought you just powered into it Smile


no do not stop,.. the slalom and Fo8 are one manouver... (sp?)

but you always need to be "aware of your surroundings" just as you would on a live road...

i would advise looking around mid manouver because you should always LS when changing position, and a Fo8 is a hell of a lot of changing position...

however, as your "looking where your going" etc, its not much effort to do... just look before turning... and it serves as a LS too..

slaloming i didnt do LS'ers, but i did check my mirrors... you have LOTS of space, just keep it slow and steady...

and as you practiced the same way i did, im sure you'll find it the same...

just note: you cant be penalised for looking TOO MUCH, but can for looking too little.

sadly the earliest re-test i can get is end of october... gonna call some schools and see if i can get in one of their slots...
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