Correct procedure for turning left or right?

[maxp]

Im due to start my mod1/mod2 training in a fortnight and am trying to get prepared.

I always thought the correct procedure for turning was: mirror, signal, lifesaver, maneuver.

However Ive just seen a learn2ride yotube video that states: lifesaver, signal, mirror, lifesaver, manuever.

This seems slightly over the top to me?

Can anyone confirm the correct procedure?

[mark111]

On my CBT it was Mirrors , Lifesaver , Signal , maneuver , Then another Lifesaver before the turn

[swampy]

A lifesaver should be done after after signalling and before moving... It's a lifesaver not a blind spot saver.
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[Flamzypants]

'Blind spot saver' may well end up saving your life, don't see why it'd need a different name for the same action :p But to the OP, second post is dead on what I've been taught.
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[paulie82]

Read in one of the official DSA books that it was OSM (PSL). Observation, Signal, Manoeuvre. The Manoeuvre being Position, Speed, Lifesaver.

'Observation' doesn't specify so maybe it's a judgement call. I was trained on the CBT recently to use mirrors first though.
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[Rogerborg]

[matto]

OSM-PSL is a one sized fits all routine to get into your head for any manouvre on the road.

However what you do in each part of the routine is entirely situational and it's only experience that will allow you to make the correct decisions each time.

Observations - might be a glance in the mirrors, or a full rearward look, depends whether you are pulling away or heading towards a very quiet single lane roundabout.
Signal - you might signal, you might not, but it's good to consider whether one is needed or not.
Manouvre:
Position - where you need to be to get safely where you want to go
Speed - ensure your going to be at a safe speed for the manouvre/
Look - generally a lifesaver on a motorbike but again only if needed, also at fast moving junctions it could include a final 'is it still clear' check.

Obviously you have to start this a long way from any junction/obstruction/etc. to fit it all in, if you can't then bits of it have to missed out but only experience will allow you to make the right calls to keep yourself safe and most importantly the examiner happy.

TLDR: everything is situational, only experience is going to make sure you do the right things each time.

[DonDino]

My instructor's system is:

Left turn
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Look behind (either turn head or mirrors)
Signal
Speed & gears
Lifesaver
Manoeuvre

Right turn
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Look behind (either turn head or mirrors)
Signal
Lifesaver
Move to centre/right side of road (unless lanes are marked)
Speed & gears
Lifesaver
Manoeuvre

Obviously adjusted for the conditions, i.e. for open or closed junctions, if you decide you need to stop at the line, etc.

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[DonDino]

[matto]

People teach the 'un-needy lifesaver' because there are situations when you should do it, like turning left in very slow moving city traffic.

It's a belt and braces approach to learners as most are not experienced enough to assess the situations when it is needed and the examiners will not mark you down for doing it when you didn't need to, vice versa however...

[cimbian]

Changing road position and changing lanes and crossing carriageways.

Left turn (major-to-minor)
Mirror, signal, left shoulder-check move from P2 to P1. Slow right-down, left shoulder-check, manoeuvre.

Right turn (major-to-minor)
Mirror, signal right should-check move from P2 to P3.
If into another lane (ghost island etc.) right should-check move from lane to new lane.
slow right down.
right shoulder-check BEFORE crossing carriageway

Mod-2 passed with flying Doodahs last week using the above.

All in my VERY humble opinion, of course.
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