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 Posted: 13:00 - 29 Oct 2012 Post subject: Privatising Roads gets ok from CBI |
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Apology if repost but I thought of this from this thread - Which useless civil servant thought this up? - two tier road tax pricing.
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| nce.co.uk wrote: | Prime minister David Cameron’s plans to privatise the roads network and scrap the Highways Agency won the backing of business leaders |
I do believe there was another recent report from a right wing think-tank body saying privatisation would reduce costs for motorists. Sadly can't find link atm unless this from Autocar is it... | Autocar site wrote: | Road privatisation 'will ease traffic'
Under the new plans, investors would bid to own highways over a long lease period, which would then be privately maintained thanks to yearly government funding; this extra cash injection could come from inflated road tax costs.
On top of this, privately owned roads could also introduce toll charging, but only on extended stretches of existing highway... |
What a stupid ass idea. British roads being owned/run by, for example, the French, Germans, Americans (like our power/gas, that's worked out well after all)  ____________________ ...and the whirlwind is in the thorn trees, it's hard for thee to kick against the pricks...
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Meh it was only a matter of how long compared to when, still wonder where this money is going to go doubt it will touch the roads, hmm maybe he will say to reduce the debt When he is actually paying the interest if any and not touching the debt as that was still going up. ____________________ CB125>CG125>GN125>ER5>K100RS>R1100RS>K100RS
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Thinking about it this will be great for the economy, just think if they want to manage it at all they will have to turn them into a kind of toll road, with a person at each slip road Otherwise they are never going to enforce it.. ____________________ CB125>CG125>GN125>ER5>K100RS>R1100RS>K100RS
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Reduce costs?
How the fuck will they do that?
I will still pay my road tax, I will still pay for insurance and MOTs, I will still pay for fuel...and that WOULD be that, but now I will have to pay TOLLS as well? Fuck off Cameron you conservative cunt.
"Plans to privatise the roads won the backing of business leaders"
OF COURSE IT FUCKING DID, THEY'RE THE ONES THAT WILL MAKE MONEY FROM IT
FUCK YOU DAVID, FUCK YOU CONSERVATIVES, THE PEOPLE SHOULD OWN THE COUNTRY, NOT A SELECT FEW RICH ASSCUNTSHITFUCKERS
On a related note, is this why almost every single motorway in the country currently is being worked on (50mph average speed zones ) with signs saying "upgrading to managed motorways"? That doesn't fill me with positive thoughts, in fact all that says to me is "Big Brother is going to be watching you". ____________________ I'm autistic. That means I'm smarter than you. |
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All we do then is N30 our plates to the undertray  |
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| TheSmiler wrote: | Crappy job maybe but just think how many slip roads there are that could be monitored, then think how many jobs that will create. It's just what this country needs.
Although they would most probably resort to EFC to "reduce costs" (Electronic Fee Collectors) which would still bring temporary jobs. |
problem is this country does NOT need TEMPORARY jobs, it needs permanent jobs which offer security, routine and so on. temporary jobs are such a false economy. like CBT riding for 20 years! i'd happily take up a job sitting in a booth monitoring cars paying tolls if it was permanent. as long as they put a small parking bay close to it for obvious reasons.
temporary and part time jobs. too many of these in this country and employers get so picky if you take up a second PT job. some work contracts actually prevent you from getting a second PT job.
all this "electronic era" BULLSHIT! anyone else notice, before the internet, anpr cameras and electronic/automatic payment/systems there was alot more jobs around? skilled workers who build stupidly massive things. fuck the titanic is one hell of an example. dont see that sorta stuff anymore! (and yes, it sunk, but only because they went against the design recomendations of raising the bulkheads due to asthetic reasons).
point is, private motorways + tolls = full time, permanent jobs, NOT this bullshit electronic methods.
if the government wants to release its responsibility of ensuring our roads are kept up and pawn that off to companies, the least they can do is MAKE SURE that the country gets something in return! ____________________ BCF's biggest cunt list: Cansa, Pits, Rob |
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To the above by Usually_wrong.
Employing people is costly though.
You have to pay wages for one, then national insurance. Plus you'll need insurance cover for your employees, buy them a uniform, put up places where they can work, 'rest' facilities (i.e. so they can relieve themselves at least), etc.
Whereas it's a one-off cost to install something like ANPR gantries and the network and computer servers to monitor it. Plus they'll be an asset that can be written off against tax as well so even cheaper investment. People can't be written down/off (although you wouldn't think so would you). As said it's a one off cost that'll get cheaper when put against the income over several years on the business model. People are a recurring annual expense.
However, different companies have a different way of looking at the value/cost of people based on their bottom line. When I worked on oil and gas safety systems the kit was set up to protect the working parts. Based on that it could be a 3 to 12 month lead time to replace a part like a generator (IIRC we used RB211 jet engine based stuff). So if it went down you'd be losing money. People on the other hand were cheaper and quicker to replace. So if a few got killed/injured then no big deal (any bad publicity handled by marketing so no worries).
Just some thoughts  ____________________ ...and the whirlwind is in the thorn trees, it's hard for thee to kick against the pricks...
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| Usually_Wrong wrote: | while the economy could benefit from [legalising highway robbery] |
To robbe Petyr & geve it Poule, it were non almesse but gret synne.
You could also help glaziers by running around breaking windows, but it doesn't help the economy, it just ensures that everyone but glaziers loses out. Having people produce things helps everyone. But too many tithes and taxes are just re-distribution of blood from the host to the parasite.
This particular application of leechcraft is being lauded by people who all have expense accounts. Is it any wonder they're in favour of getting the proles out of their way?
I'd lay money (say 100 miles worth) that any scheme will be set up Catch-22 alfalfa farming stylee, so that "eco incentives" will be given based on the amount of traffic that doesn't use any stretch of road.
Dress it up any way you like, but the only way for the gentry to travel unimpeded is to price the peasantry off of the road, and get us back in cattle trucks where we belong. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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Yep, all conceived, studied, funded amd set in motion by the labour government. It's cost MILLIONS to put up all those little white ANPR cameras.
And you all thought road pricing was dead - this is just the same devil by another name. ____________________ a.k.a 'Geri'
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I wouldnt mind this if they also adopted an autobahn approach to speed. Imagine how fast you could get places with no speed limits  ____________________ 04 NSR 125(sold) ---- 03 CBR 600rr(sold) ----90 pan euro ST1100 ' ' ----02 CG 125
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 13 years, 115 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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