Archery

[Hetzer]

Anyone here into it? My son joined a club recently and we're getting him a Hoyt Ruckus for xmas. Any info on bits for it would be helpful, though the guy at the shop seems to know his stuff. But as with most shops he's constrained by what he stocks.
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[nowhere.elysium]

Yup. What specifically do you want to know?

I've not done it for a year or two, so my product knowledge is a bit old, but I still know the theory and technique well enough.

As for purchasing bits, I found that TargetCraft Archery was brilliant for ordering parts from.
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[Hetzer]

Dunno.

I got a list of bits, some required, others optional I guess...

Arrow rest
Sights
Trigger
Arm brace (protector)
Quiver (bow mounted)
Case
Stabiliser/damper
Kisser
Whisker biscuit

Does that about cover it?
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[tatfan]

If you can, get a full sleeve arm brace. It stings like a bitch when the string pinches your skin on a small one! Either that, or tell him not to bother wearing one. He'll soon learn to keep his arm bent!

[gfrancisdev]

nipple guard, though that's only needed for anyone with either moobs or decent pecs (bow string to the nipple hurts...)

[andym]

bloody great sport IMO, but maybe look into a recurve bow rather than compound (more skill required with a recurve).

I have a recurve and the only things I need are: quiver (and arrows obviously), arm guard, glove (or tab depending on budget) and a range, or if you have a large garden either buy or make some targets.

If you are near the southwest then may I recommend (and not trying to spam here), Wye Valley Archery, it has targets (warm up), life size animals (range from 10 yards to 50 yards), and a roving field... All in something like 48 acres so it is a day event rather than a few minute shoot. Also the man in charge (Lee), knows his stuff and will teach you EVERYTHING you need to know no matter what your skill level

[Hetzer]

His mum went all Zen and said she wanted him to stick with a recurve until he'd mastered that. The problem there though is with upgrading as he grows bigger...recurve = new bow, compound his size doesn't matter. Or so the guy explained.

He also said he really needs a trigger due to his size. Personally I'd use one regardless; apart from anything else it provides a much cleaner release and thus greater accuracy. And drawing off the wrist vs the finger-tips, that can only be good.

Kisser and biscuit, binned.

Thanks for the advice guys, already saved me a bit of moolah.
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[Dracon]

I've competed in national and international competitions with the Recurve bow (used to be known as the Olympic Recurve but that's an outdated term now) and had the privilege to coach archers of all abilities, it's a fantastic sport!

Whether or not he uses a trigger has nothing to do with his size and all to do with what style of bow he is shooting. The "unlimited" Compound style means a bow with all the toys and gadgets, you use a trigger, sights with lenses and a high let-off meaning you can hold a very high draw weight with no issue.

Also, although a compound can be adjusted to suit varying draw lengths, this is still limited and a lot more expensive than getting new limbs for a recurve. Most clubs have an active youth club and this can mean a cheap way to upgrade as he grows/increases strength.

Also, you don't "bend" the bow arm to stop the string from hitting it, you rotate the arm so the "hinge" of the elbow is towards the string, this means there is a straight path for the string to follow.

Compound bows are as difficult to shoot as the Recurve bow, however, a "little and often" shooter will maintain shooting fitness better with a Compound than with a Recurve.

[Dracon]

Arrow rest - Simple sprung steel "snake tongue" type is perfect.
Sights - Simple open ring.
Trigger - simple design, wrist mounted to reduce chances of releasing the grip.
Arm brace (protector) - half arm but not one that covers the elbow or it will increase the chance of it catching.
Quiver (bow mounted) - belt mounted, bow mounted quivers have no place on a modern shooting line and cause no end of issues with balance.
Case - Padded soft cases are perfect and easy to carry.
Stabiliser/damper - simple long rod.
Kisser - potentially, but these must be setup properly and adjusted as he grows. This is really something to discuss with his coach (as with the rest of the equipment).
Whisker biscuit - an arrow rest which although not inaccurate isn't the best and damages fletchings. Great for hunting but not much for the shooting lines in this country.

[U_W v2.0]

caught the inside of my elbow in the strings of my bow once, feck me it was bloody painful and swelled up to the size of a tennis ball, couldnt bend my arm for 3 days.
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[Frost]

Buy him a longbow and teach him to spot the french at 100 paces.

[lihp]

hetzer, as he grows you just change the limbs on the recurve. If he can draw 30lbs he will have no issues over any of the lengths used.

With regards to Compounds his strength still matters, as the weight drop off increases the effort required to pull it over the cam increases also.

Compound are also generally quite a bit more expensive a good release aid will set you back £150+ and you only need to punch yourself in the face once because a cheap release aid slipped to go and buy one.

[Valentino Mossy]

...or when you have a brain fart and let the release aid go and it flies down the line and you look a twat in front of everyone

Shot compound for years,won the jnr welsh indoor champs and the south wales jnr champs when i was younger.

Best advice i can give is tell him to enjoy himself, dont take it too seriously.I left after starting way too young and by the age of 20 i was getting sick of dropping the odd arrow and then throwing competitions down the drain cause of one shot.... theres too much pressure with some trainers in clubs these days.

Check out ebay as you'll find great second hand kit on there...

Also maybe a good set of spare nocks,fletchings and points... dont forget the glue.

Also factor in gnas or other club fees (what ever they maybe these days).... You'll find after a while the whole archery scene gets very expensive.

Theres a place near crick which i always used for my bits... good family run shop, been around years. https://www.walesarchery.co.uk/
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[Rogerborg]

My archery outlays have been: some sticks, string, feathers, piles, glue, plus time.

You can make a shootable bow from just about any bit of non-resinous, non-over-dried wood. Have him make his own, tell him it's a rite of passage among his people, the Cheapskate Clan.

I really can't be doing with all the artificial bolt-ons getting in the way.

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