Resend my activation email : Register : Log in 
BCF: Bike Chat Forums


Bridgestone BT023 vs. Dunlop Roadsmart

Reply to topic
Bike Chat Forums Index -> General Bike Chat Goto page 1, 2  Next
View previous topic : View next topic  
Author Message

Recluso
Brolly Dolly



Joined: 16 Mar 2011
Karma :

PostPosted: 11:37 - 05 Nov 2012    Post subject: Bridgestone BT023 vs. Dunlop Roadsmart Reply with quote

Mornin' all.

This IS a bit of noob question, but it's the first time I've faced getting tyres changed so I'm in the deep end a bit (I have no mechanical brain Razz)

Currently the Divvy has the standard BT021s it came with but as they are seriously starting to square off (the front in particular) and I have a service due, I realise that there's a very good chance they'll need replacing in the near future.

My manual has said that Bridgestone BT021 (BT023 now as it's replaced the 021) or Dunlop Roadsmart is the 'recommended' tyre to use. However, despite looking for reviews, I am unsure which may be the better tyre to consider to best suit my riding to get the best life out of them. Or if there's any difference.

Currently I do a fair chunk of motorway miles per week. Anywhere between 300 and 600+ which I appreciate is what has squared off my current tyres. I also use the bike all year round so something confidently sticky in the rain would likely also be helpful.

Does anyone have any experience with these two different tyres? Moreso, based on any experience, can anyone give a reasonable suggestion as to which, if applicable, would be better suited to my riding requirements?

All input appreciated as always Thumbs Up


R.
____________________
'Just erotic. Nothing kinky. It's the difference between using a feather and using a chicken.'
Honda PS125i > Yamaha YBR125 > Yamaha XJ6 Diversion > Yamaha Tracer 900
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail You must be logged in to rate posts

P.addy
Red Rocket



Joined: 14 Feb 2008
Karma :

PostPosted: 11:41 - 05 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Never heard a bad review of the 023 and the R6 I took out had those on, nothing but positive from me.

Roadsmarts seem to also get the same praise... especially from CaNsA and Tot, and neither "hang around" Laughing
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail You must be logged in to rate posts

Marmalade
World Chat Champion



Joined: 28 Apr 2009
Karma :

PostPosted: 11:47 - 05 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you are going to be sticking mainly to motorways I'd go with 023, if you are going to be playing the lanes then roadsmarts.

I had roadsmarts fitted to a zzr that i thrashed the living daylights out of and they held on and lasted well.

Currently use 023 on pan euro and gsxr as they do mainly long haul with a bit of playing.
____________________
Nobby the Bastard: How yo tell the difference between the actual japanese and her just screaming because she's had live fish stuck up her arse? [url=https://www.nicks-shop.co.uk/bcf-goodies-15-c.aspGet BCF stickers and things here[/url] Reflective helmet stickers - Legal requirement in france - Clicky
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail You must be logged in to rate posts

0l0dom0l0
World Chat Champion



Joined: 21 Oct 2009
Karma :

PostPosted: 12:11 - 05 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm a big fan of the 023.

I never had any 'moments' on them at all, very predictable tyre, with great feedback and grip in all conditions (apart from a wet trackday where they were not as good as I was expecting, but had nothing to compare them against in the same conditions so it might have been they were great compared to something else).

Since I replaced my rear with the pilot road 2, I've had a couple of big moments, one was a near high side pulling out of a junction in the wet which very nearly had me off and there have been a couple of other bits.

I'l be going back to the 023 when the rear is worn.

Not tried the roadsmart.
____________________
CBT Passed: 30/08/2009, Theory Passed: 31/08/2010, Mod 1 Passed: 6/9/2010, Mod 2 Passed: 13/09/2010. Restriction ended 13/09/2012.

Bikes: 2007 Derbi GPR 50, 1998 Yamaha Fazer 600 (written off), 2002 Yamaha Fazer 600, 1994 CBR 600F, 2003 Triumph Daytona 600, Kawasaki ZX6R J1.....Current: 2006 Yamaha FZ6, 1998 Suzuki TL1000R and a Honda VFR 400 NC30.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

sebastianw
Spanner Monkey



Joined: 22 May 2009
Karma :

PostPosted: 13:07 - 05 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I always had BT 023 until the last set when I ended up with roadsmarts (already on the bike). I'm not confident in them when it's wet and the rear tire is very square after about 4000 miles,about half on motorway. It's going to need replacement soon where I could expect at least 8000 miles from the BT023
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail You must be logged in to rate posts

Polarbear
Super Spammer



Joined: 24 Feb 2007
Karma :

PostPosted: 13:31 - 05 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

8000 miles from a rear tyre Shocked . I so wish.

2500 on original Bridgestones on my busa. 3500 on my street triple r (Pirelli dragon corsa). I just hope my explorer tyre is gong to last a bit longer. (Metzler something or other)
____________________
Triumph Trophy Launch Edition
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail You must be logged in to rate posts

CaNsA
Super Spammer



Joined: 02 Jan 2008
Karma :

PostPosted: 13:41 - 05 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would never go back to Bridgestones since rocking a set of Dunny Roadsmarts.

I'm on my 2nd set now Very Happy
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

StevRS
Scooby Slapper



Joined: 25 Jun 2009
Karma :

PostPosted: 13:49 - 05 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I replaced BT21s with Roadsmart 2s. I won't be replacing the Dunlops with Bridgestones when they need replacing, put it that way.

Unbelievable amounts of wet grip. So much so you have to reassess your wet riding. Tracked them in the dry and they were sticky and predictable. Wearing well too.

tl;dr Dunlop Roadsmart 2 > BT021
____________________
MV Agusta Brutale 800 RR, Unfinished 1978 XS250
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

Sam_Y_93
World Chat Champion



Joined: 04 Nov 2009
Karma :

PostPosted: 13:58 - 05 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use bt023's and can't say a bad word about them, they are the only tyres I've used from new so can't really compare to others.

Just scrubbed in a new rear, got about 6000 miles out of the last one, and that was about half and half motorway/hooning.
____________________
Bikes Past: Yamaha Aerox (sold) Yamaha R125 (written off)
Bikes Current: Honda VFR 400 (awaiting restoration) Honda CB600f F-4
Theory passed July 21st Mod1 passed August 3rd Mod 2 passed 26th August
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail You must be logged in to rate posts

magpiemale
Traffic Copper



Joined: 04 Feb 2006
Karma :

PostPosted: 16:40 - 05 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had both on my fz1 fazer and thought the bt23 a better tyre but it comes to personal choice.
____________________
NSR125 1992 (sold) kawasaki Z750S,fazer FZ1 07 now gone present bike 2012 fz1s Fazer,beowulf rad protector,heated grips,sw motech gps holder,power socket.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail You must be logged in to rate posts

Coxyzxr
Brolly Dolly



Joined: 22 May 2008
Karma :

PostPosted: 17:45 - 05 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Went with the 023 myself, was so impressed I replace them with the same. I feltonfident breaking in the wet almost as hard as I could in the dry, grip on rear starts dropping off once they get past a certain tread depth tho, regardless would still use them and replacing the dunlop 204 my zx10 come with for the 023 asap. (204 is worse than a greased slick in the wet, and believe me on my 05 zx10r I need grip)
____________________
**WAS FITTED "WRONG WAY ROUND" !** CANT ACCOUNT FOR THE STUPID !
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

Fowlersrs
World Chat Champion



Joined: 30 Mar 2012
Karma :

PostPosted: 17:59 - 05 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where are people getting there 023's from and what are u paying Very Happy
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

Seb
World Chat Champion



Joined: 19 Jul 2007
Karma :

PostPosted: 18:11 - 05 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Had Roadsmarts on a couple of different bikes now, incredible tyre in the wet and still very capable in the dry. Not ridden them myself but I believe one of the big race schools uses 023s as a wet tyre so they can't be half bad either. Just to mix it up some more, Pilot Road 3s have been my most recent vice and again, nothing but praise for them Thumbs Up
____________________
2010 Triumph 1050 Sprint ST
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

magpiemale
Traffic Copper



Joined: 04 Feb 2006
Karma :

PostPosted: 18:25 - 05 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I get a guy to do my tyres (mobile fitter). Costs around 280 - 300 fitted
____________________
NSR125 1992 (sold) kawasaki Z750S,fazer FZ1 07 now gone present bike 2012 fz1s Fazer,beowulf rad protector,heated grips,sw motech gps holder,power socket.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail You must be logged in to rate posts

Marmalade
World Chat Champion



Joined: 28 Apr 2009
Karma :

PostPosted: 18:35 - 05 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

About £150 for a rear, £110 for front fitted to the bike
____________________
Nobby the Bastard: How yo tell the difference between the actual japanese and her just screaming because she's had live fish stuck up her arse? [url=https://www.nicks-shop.co.uk/bcf-goodies-15-c.aspGet BCF stickers and things here[/url] Reflective helmet stickers - Legal requirement in france - Clicky
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail You must be logged in to rate posts

bazza
World Chat Champion



Joined: 27 Aug 2004
Karma :

PostPosted: 20:22 - 05 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another vote for Roadsmarts here. Previously on BT021s, might try Pilot Road 3s next for comparison. Or not, depending on price...
____________________
"That's it. You people have stood in my way long enough. I'm going to clown college."
'98 Ducati 750SS, '08 Suzuki GSX650F ©2004-2014, Bazza's Harmless Banter
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

MinhDinh
World Chat Champion



Joined: 01 Jan 2005
Karma :

PostPosted: 21:10 - 05 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Had Road smarts, loved them in all weather.
____________________
Hit the G spot. Wink
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

0l0dom0l0
World Chat Champion



Joined: 21 Oct 2009
Karma :

PostPosted: 22:08 - 05 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

My last set of 023's brand spanking new, fitted to wheels was £209.
____________________
CBT Passed: 30/08/2009, Theory Passed: 31/08/2010, Mod 1 Passed: 6/9/2010, Mod 2 Passed: 13/09/2010. Restriction ended 13/09/2012.

Bikes: 2007 Derbi GPR 50, 1998 Yamaha Fazer 600 (written off), 2002 Yamaha Fazer 600, 1994 CBR 600F, 2003 Triumph Daytona 600, Kawasaki ZX6R J1.....Current: 2006 Yamaha FZ6, 1998 Suzuki TL1000R and a Honda VFR 400 NC30.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

evoboy
World Chat Champion



Joined: 20 Aug 2009
Karma :

PostPosted: 00:09 - 06 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whichever is cheapest.

Id have PR2/3's over either the Roadsmarts or 023's though.

Feel like a more sporty tyre than the rest, yet still give the mileage and wet weather grip.

Chances are anything new will feel better than a set of worn out tyres...
____________________
Suzuki GT250 x7------- Fazer 600------CB250RS------Aprilia Rally 70----- Bandit 600

APT Motorcycles
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts
N cee thirty This post is not being displayed because the poster is banned. Unhide this post / all posts.

pits
World Chat Champion



Joined: 22 Apr 2008
Karma :

PostPosted: 00:23 - 06 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

FWIW I wouldn't even get on a bike with a Dunlops on point blank refuse to ride it, I have had way too many moments on Dunlops which I have never had on any other make of tyre.
RS125 refusing to lean over
RS125 spinning rear tyre in second, which I didn't even think was possible
Duke refused to lean over
Duke ran me wide and almost into opposite kerb
Duke slipping out in the wet
Duke feeling like it just wants to fall from beneath my legs
BMW 5 series hit roundabout at speeds I would normally hit that roundabout out, back end just snapped out, didn't even do it when someone fitted Triangle Sports
BMW 3 series understeering and slipping on the front in the wet

List goes on and on, will never ever fit them to anything I own, will never ever ride a bike with them on, if I change my bike and the bike I buy is wearing Dunlops I will not ride it till the tyres were changed, couldn't care if they were brand new.

But that is just personal opinion, as seen here a lot of people have had great experiences on them and will happily use them, I would rather stick to Michellins or Goodyears when it comes to cars and bikes, sure Dunlops are good but I have had too many moments on various Dunlops to make me want to venture anywhere near them.

Personally I would go either Bridgestone or Michellin, but that is my personal preference
____________________
Stinkwheel: You have no right to free speech
00:32:08 Blau Zedong: yes, i am a massive CB400 fan and collector
00:33:00 Blau Zedong: the CB400 is my favourite road bike
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

Kris
World Chat Champion



Joined: 03 Feb 2002
Karma :

PostPosted: 09:08 - 06 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

pits wrote:
FWIW I wouldn't even get on a bike with a Dunlops on point blank refuse to ride it, I have had way too many moments on Dunlops which I have never had on any other make of tyre.
RS125 refusing to lean over
RS125 spinning rear tyre in second, which I didn't even think was possible
Duke refused to lean over
Duke ran me wide and almost into opposite kerb
Duke slipping out in the wet
Duke feeling like it just wants to fall from beneath my legs
BMW 5 series hit roundabout at speeds I would normally hit that roundabout out, back end just snapped out, didn't even do it when someone fitted Triangle Sports
BMW 3 series understeering and slipping on the front in the wet

List goes on and on, will never ever fit them to anything I own, will never ever ride a bike with them on, if I change my bike and the bike I buy is wearing Dunlops I will not ride it till the tyres were changed, couldn't care if they were brand new.


+1 Thumbs Up

My experience of Dunlops was on a ZX9R fitted with D207RRs...

eugh.

Personal highlights of that tyre:

Almost highsiding going round a 50mph sweeper on cold tyres.
Front trying to tuck on roundabouts in the wet.
Rear spinning up when pulling away in the cold / damp.
'Numb / remote' feeling from front end.


I've done thousands of miles on 023s and they really are superb. My only gripes are price and lack of mileage. I've recently switched to Maxxis Supermaxx diamonds (yes, yes, I know Rolling Eyes ) but believe me when I say they are almost as good as 023s and it was 2Deg. outside today and they felt great.

Cheaper too. Thumbs Up
____________________
NSR125RR - ZXR750H1 - ZX9R E1 - GSF600S - GSF600SK3 - VFR400-NC30 - SV1000N - ST1100-R - CBR900RR-R - GSF1200SK5 - GSF600SK1 - VFR1200FA - GSXR1000K2 - ZZR1400 D8F
www.prisonplanet.com
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

Polarbear
Super Spammer



Joined: 24 Feb 2007
Karma :

PostPosted: 09:47 - 06 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Best tyres I have had for all round performance and a decent life were Avon Storms. They lasted 3 times as long on my busa as the Bridgstones.
____________________
Triumph Trophy Launch Edition
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail You must be logged in to rate posts

pits
World Chat Champion



Joined: 22 Apr 2008
Karma :

PostPosted: 10:26 - 06 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kris wrote:


Almost highsiding going round a 50mph sweeper on cold tyres.
Front trying to tuck on roundabouts in the wet.
Rear spinning up when pulling away in the cold / damp.
'Numb / remote' feeling from front end.



I found the front end of my Duke would try and tuck on roundabouts, riding in the wet always felt like it wanted to go, the worst being where they ran me wide on a bend because they couldn't get heat in them, then tried to tuck on the next corner, I rode 11 miles home down really nice roads at 30mph because I just wanted off the bike, I wouldn't even bring myself to ride it, till I had new tyres fitted.

That was one of the biggest problems for me, getting heat in them, I found it had to be the hottest day of the year, and you need to be "on it" for ages before they even started to kick into life, when they kicked into life they were pretty good, but they just took too long to do so.

Again cold wet weather was just dreadful, on the V twin the rear would lock so easily in the wet going down gears, even "drifted" the Duke pulling out of somewhere.



To be honest I am scared that I may slip out and break a leg or ankle if I bought and wore a set of Dunlop Dappers




ETA: On another note, there are people out there who wont fit Avons to their bike, but Polar is happy to and finds them brilliant, tyres on bikes are a real personal preference, thing for me is you will find people who will say that Michellins or Bridgestone are ok tyres, but they prefer Dunlop or Avons (never used Avoins, using internet hearsay)

Then on the other had, you have people who bang on about how good Michellins or Bridgestone tyres are, and then will say that they will never ever use Dunlops or Avons

Really I think it is down to personal choice, you may love Dunlops Rec if you fit them, or you may be a person who hates them and has a year or so of riding with a lack of confidence, personally on a bike I stick with what I know
____________________
Stinkwheel: You have no right to free speech
00:32:08 Blau Zedong: yes, i am a massive CB400 fan and collector
00:33:00 Blau Zedong: the CB400 is my favourite road bike
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

Kris
World Chat Champion



Joined: 03 Feb 2002
Karma :

PostPosted: 10:37 - 06 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

pits wrote:

ETA: On another note, there are people out there who wont fit Avons to their bike, but Polar is happy to and finds them brilliant, tyres on bikes are a real personal preference, thing for me is you will find people who will say that Michellins or Bridgestone are ok tyres, but they prefer Dunlop or Avons (never used Avoins, using internet hearsay)

Then on the other had, you have people who bang on about how good Michellins or Bridgestone tyres are, and then will say that they will never ever use Dunlops or Avons


LOL true, personal preference etc, plus tyres have obviously moved on since 2004 (when I had my 9R) but it left a lasting impression...

Also I've tried Avons and found them pretty shocking too IME - though not as bad as the murderous 207s. I had the Avon Azaro AV46s on a ZXR750 H1..

Let's just say in the dry they were average but in the wet...

Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked
____________________
NSR125RR - ZXR750H1 - ZX9R E1 - GSF600S - GSF600SK3 - VFR400-NC30 - SV1000N - ST1100-R - CBR900RR-R - GSF1200SK5 - GSF600SK1 - VFR1200FA - GSXR1000K2 - ZZR1400 D8F
www.prisonplanet.com
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts
Old Thread Alert!

The last post was made 13 years, 134 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful?
  Display posts from previous:   
This page may contain affiliate links, which means we may earn a small commission if a visitor clicks through and makes a purchase. By clicking on an affiliate link, you accept that third-party cookies will be set.

Post new topic   Reply to topic    Bike Chat Forums Index -> General Bike Chat All times are GMT
Goto page 1, 2  Next
Page 1 of 2

 
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum

Read the Terms of Use! - Powered by phpBB © phpBB Group
 

Debug Mode: ON - Server: birks (www) - Page Generation Time: 0.23 Sec - Server Load: 1.87 - MySQL Queries: 13 - Page Size: 133.39 Kb