Resend my activation email : Register : Log in 
BCF: Bike Chat Forums


Ask a silly question....

Reply to topic
Bike Chat Forums Index -> New Bikers
View previous topic : View next topic  
Author Message

richwell1983
Derestricted Danger



Joined: 13 Oct 2012
Karma :

PostPosted: 16:25 - 13 Oct 2012    Post subject: Ask a silly question.... Reply with quote

Hi,

New here, read through the duffers guide, v handy. Passed my CBT a while back, and been tootling around on my 125. After reading about the forthcoming changes to licensing, i thought it best i get mine out the way.

My question is, do i need to sit a theory test? I have a full car license, and am 29. I can't see anything about a specific motorbike theory test on the direct gov website, and presumably theory is theory, and it's just on the highway code?

Thanks in advance

Rich
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

sidewinder
World Chat Champion



Joined: 24 Aug 2011
Karma :

PostPosted: 16:29 - 13 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

You will need to redo your theory due to the bike specific questions on it Thumbs Up
____________________
"Nitrous is like a cheap hooker, you want to hit it but are scared of the consequences
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

richwell1983
Derestricted Danger



Joined: 13 Oct 2012
Karma :

PostPosted: 16:32 - 13 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

cheers for swift reply Thumbs Up
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

weasley
World Chat Champion



Joined: 16 Oct 2010
Karma :

PostPosted: 16:33 - 13 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

^^^That^^^

I passed my driving test in 1989 before separate theory tests existed, but had to sit a theory test for my bike licence 11 years ago and then again for HGV licence a few years later. Each has its own specific questions included (although they all use the same hazard perception clips Rolling Eyes ). The pass mark requirement is higher for the HGV too.
____________________
Yamaha XJ600 | Yamaha YZF600R Thundercat | KTM 990 SMT | BMW F900XR TE
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

Teflon-Mike
tl;dr



Joined: 01 Jun 2010
Karma :

PostPosted: 16:47 - 13 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not a 're-sit' ts a different exam; theres one for bikes and one for cars.... bog all difference apart from a couple of bike specific questions, like side-cars and pillions, and hi-vis, but yes, you need to sit MOTORCYCLE theory test to get a motorcycle licence.
____________________
My Webby'Tef's-tQ, loads of stuff about my bikes, my Land-Rovers, and the stuff I do with them!
Current Bikes:'Honda VF1000F' ;'CB750F2N' ;'CB125TD ( 6 3 of em!)'; 'Montesa Cota 248'. Learner FAQ's:= 'U want to Ride a Motorbike! Where Do U start?'
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website You must be logged in to rate posts

richwell1983
Derestricted Danger



Joined: 13 Oct 2012
Karma :

PostPosted: 17:29 - 13 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the info, just booked it, now for a theory book....
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

Flamzypants
Nova Slayer



Joined: 06 Jul 2011
Karma :

PostPosted: 17:39 - 13 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a question for people undergoing tests right now. What happens if you pass your mod1 but don't manage your mod2 before the law changes hit? Just tough luck and you have to redo the 1? Or do you still get to do the old license tests until the mod1 or your theory expires?
____________________
CBT - 30/06/11. RIP Sinnis Stealth 18/07/11. Theory passed! CBR125R 16/08/12. Mod 1 Booked.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

Teflon-Mike
tl;dr



Joined: 01 Jun 2010
Karma :

PostPosted: 17:52 - 13 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Flamzypants wrote:
I have a question for people undergoing tests right now. What happens if you pass your mod1 but don't manage your mod2 before the law changes hit? Just tough luck and you have to redo the 1? Or do you still get to do the old license tests until the mod1 or your theory expires?


January 19th..... any one qualifying for a licence on or after that date, NEW RULES apply.

You have to have Theory, CBT, Mod 1 and Mod 2 completed and passed by Jan 18th. End of no exceptions.

Only really applies to people sitting 'standard-bike' test on a 125, aiming to get an A>25Kw licence or people under 24 trying to sneak in a DAS test to get unrestricted A.

If you take Mod 1 before deadline on a 125, then come rule change that MAY be accepted for testing Mod 2 post deadline on a 125 for an A1 125 only licence, as test regime rules for A1 go up to those in force for what applies to 'standard-bike' at the moment.

If you take Mod 1 on a 125 before deadline, and they do allow a 'direct access' to A2, though, you would have to go back and repeat the Mod 1 on an A2 class bike, the Mod 1 on a 125 couldn't be counted as done under different scheme, and A2 requires a 500 A2 bike.

If you took Mod 1 under DAS before deadline, and were under 24, then come mod 2, you couldn't complete DAS you would only be eligible to test for A1 or possibly A2 if they permit a direct access to it for over 19s. POSSIBLE that the pre deadline Mod 1 COULD be counted towards post deadline A2 test.... as the test requirements suggest a bike of higher performance than A2 test demands, BUT, no garantee, they may not accept it and insist on repeat Mod 1 on A2 standard bike.

Clear as mud? OK Short answer, if you don't get all tests done and dusted by the 18th of January under current rules, PRESUME you will have to do both practicals over again, on relevant class of bike for licence entitlement you want to test for, under new rules.

They will NOT issue an A>25Kw licence after January 18th, they will not issue a full unrestricted A after Jan 19th to an under 24. Law says so.
____________________
My Webby'Tef's-tQ, loads of stuff about my bikes, my Land-Rovers, and the stuff I do with them!
Current Bikes:'Honda VF1000F' ;'CB750F2N' ;'CB125TD ( 6 3 of em!)'; 'Montesa Cota 248'. Learner FAQ's:= 'U want to Ride a Motorbike! Where Do U start?'
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website You must be logged in to rate posts

Flamzypants
Nova Slayer



Joined: 06 Jul 2011
Karma :

PostPosted: 18:14 - 13 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers Tef. I do like some mud ^^
____________________
CBT - 30/06/11. RIP Sinnis Stealth 18/07/11. Theory passed! CBR125R 16/08/12. Mod 1 Booked.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

gaffa
Renault 5 Driver



Joined: 03 Aug 2012
Karma :

PostPosted: 18:23 - 13 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Plenty of free theory test questions and hazard perception can be found here...

https://www.all4bikers.com/

https://www.learnerdriving.com/hazard-perception-test/free-hazard-perception-test
____________________
MOD 1 passed 30/07/12, MOD 2 passed 13/08/12. Current bike: 2008 Kawasaki ER6f
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

richwell1983
Derestricted Danger



Joined: 13 Oct 2012
Karma :

PostPosted: 20:07 - 06 Nov 2012    Post subject: should be ask silly questions.... Reply with quote

So i passed the theory, and have my mod 1 on thurs. Have been out this eve practicing all the maneuvers around the cones in a big car park.

On the DSA tube vid LINK it talks about taking your bike of its stand, and wheeling backwards into a parking bay. I have a Marauder 125, which is a bit cumbersome to wheel backwards with one hand on the bars, and one on the saddle as the vid shows. Will they accept sitting on your bike,and wheeling it back that way, or wheeling it with both hands on the bars?

I don't have a fog light, or at least i should say if the bike has one, the switch is somewhere not obvious. Could someone confirm some bikes don't have a fog light?

Any tips for mod 1 are appreciated!

Gaffa, those web addys helped, they also have a practice test on the gov website LINK and i can confirm it's identical layout to the one i just sat!
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

esullivan
Could Be A Chat Bot



Joined: 06 Mar 2012
Karma :

PostPosted: 20:14 - 06 Nov 2012    Post subject: Re: should be ask silly questions.... Reply with quote

richwell1983 wrote:
Will they accept sitting on your bike,and wheeling it back that way, or wheeling it with both hands on the bars?


You can't sit on the bike for this, but I don't think it matters where you hold the bike.
____________________
Current: '14 VFR800X Test passed 31/10/12.
Previous: '12 NC700S, '11 CBF 125, '04 SH 125.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

sebulba
Borekit Bruiser



Joined: 26 Oct 2012
Karma :

PostPosted: 20:24 - 06 Nov 2012    Post subject: Re: should be ask silly questions.... Reply with quote

richwell1983 wrote:

On the DSA tube vid LINK it talks about taking your bike of its stand, and wheeling backwards into a parking bay. I have a Marauder 125, which is a bit cumbersome to wheel backwards with one hand on the bars, and one on the saddle as the vid shows. Will they accept sitting on your bike,and wheeling it back that way, or wheeling it with both hands on the bars?


Hi richwell1983. And the answer is NO and yes Smile The whole idea of this manoeuvres is to make sure you are able to wheel your bike standing up however, you may push your bike back holding only onto your handlebars moreover, you do not have to wheel it backwards into the next bay! If you wish, you can pull it out and wheel it forwards, if you find this way easier.

PS; I had my training today and Im doing my Mod 1 test tomorrow. I'm a little scared... Confused
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

new001
Nova Slayer



Joined: 05 Mar 2012
Karma :

PostPosted: 20:29 - 06 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you don't mind me asking why the rush to do tests on a 125 now if your over 24 and the new laws next year wont effect you why not do the test on a big bike ?
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

richwell1983
Derestricted Danger



Joined: 13 Oct 2012
Karma :

PostPosted: 21:33 - 06 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks for reply's, don't want to fail on something silly.

new001 - I'm trying to get full license as cheep as pos, so learning myself on 125, and then waiting 2years is best option for me which i understand will no longer be option available after jan regardless of age.

I don't want to pay someone, to do something i can do for myself.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

Ribenapigeon
Super Spammer



Joined: 20 Feb 2012
Karma :

PostPosted: 22:00 - 06 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its a no brainer really, lesson £50, Mod2 £70 and the chance of a licence. So worth the punt and if you don't get the licence before Jan 19th just save up for a DAS next summer, with plenty of 125 time under the belt a DAS course should be easy enough. That's the way I'm looking at it.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

cimbian
World Chat Champion



Joined: 27 Sep 2012
Karma :

PostPosted: 23:36 - 06 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is perfectly acceptable to do a three-point-turn on the manual handling part of Mod 1 if this is easier for you. Just ride into the left-most bay to begin it and use loads of obs, especially when making the turn prior to backing in. Imagine you are crossing a road. This is the technique I used last month and passed.

Good luck. Smile
____________________
22PlusY
Current: Moto Guzzi 1100 Breva. Previous: Honda XL650V TransAlp
Bearded, Balding, Born again Buddhist Biker


Last edited by cimbian on 11:11 - 07 Nov 2012; edited 1 time in total
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website You must be logged in to rate posts

Rogerborg
nimbA



Joined: 26 Oct 2010
Karma :

PostPosted: 11:02 - 07 Nov 2012    Post subject: Re: should be ask silly questions.... Reply with quote

richwell1983 wrote:
bay. I have a Marauder 125, which is a bit cumbersome to wheel backwards with one hand on the bars, and one on the saddle

Look like you have a strap running over the front of the pillion seat. You could hold on to that. It doesn't matter how you do it though, as long as it's controlled, and you do your Big Obvious Observations.
____________________
Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

Mark 37
Trackday Trickster



Joined: 27 Jun 2012
Karma :

PostPosted: 12:14 - 07 Nov 2012    Post subject: Re: should be ask silly questions.... Reply with quote

sebulba wrote:

you do not have to wheel it backwards into the next bay! If you wish, you can pull it out and wheel it forwards, if you find this way easier.


This may be true, but be prepared to put the bike into the second bay backwards. On two of my mod1's I was specifically asked to manoeuvre my bike so that the front was facing out of the second bay.
____________________
No matter how fast light travels, darkness was always their first.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

cromwell
Traffic Copper



Joined: 07 May 2011
Karma :

PostPosted: 12:19 - 07 Nov 2012    Post subject: Re: should be ask silly questions.... Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
It doesn't matter how you do it though, as long as it's controlled, and you do your Big Obvious Observations.


You've got to imagine that you're doing it in the middle of the motorway and not in an empty car park, I think if you miss more than four shoulder checks it counts as a major.
____________________
"unbelievable"
Current - Suzuki Bandit 600
Ex's - Yamaha YBR 125
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

cimbian
World Chat Champion



Joined: 27 Sep 2012
Karma :

PostPosted: 12:27 - 07 Nov 2012    Post subject: Re: should be ask silly questions.... Reply with quote

Mark 37 wrote:
sebulba wrote:

you do not have to wheel it backwards into the next bay! If you wish, you can pull it out and wheel it forwards, if you find this way easier.


This may be true, but be prepared to put the bike into the second bay backwards. On two of my mod1's I was specifically asked to manoeuvre my bike so that the front was facing out of the second bay.


You'll be asked to do that on all your Mod 1s as that is the requirement of manual handling. Hence the THREE POINT TURN.
____________________
22PlusY
Current: Moto Guzzi 1100 Breva. Previous: Honda XL650V TransAlp
Bearded, Balding, Born again Buddhist Biker
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website You must be logged in to rate posts

Mark 37
Trackday Trickster



Joined: 27 Jun 2012
Karma :

PostPosted: 12:48 - 07 Nov 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cimbian.

The post I quoted makes no reference to a three point turn. It only says you do not have to push it backward. That's how it reads to me. The OP showed concern in having to push the bike backward. I was merely pointing out he would still have to reverse the bike regardless.
____________________
No matter how fast light travels, darkness was always their first.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

sebulba
Borekit Bruiser



Joined: 26 Oct 2012
Karma :

PostPosted: 20:33 - 07 Nov 2012    Post subject: Re: should be ask silly questions.... Reply with quote

Mark 37 wrote:
sebulba wrote:

you do not have to wheel it backwards into the next bay! If you wish, you can pull it out and wheel it forwards, if you find this way easier.


This may be true, but be prepared to put the bike into the second bay backwards. On two of my mod1's I was specifically asked to manoeuvre my bike so that the front was facing out of the second bay.


Yes the bike MUST be facing forward towards the cones and figure of eight.


I have completed my Module 1 today with 1 fault at the emergency stop( I didn't really stop as a emergency stop... as my instructor said; "it was more like "shall I use my breaks? shall I stop ? hmmm yeh Ill brake a little, and maybe a little more" haha but in the end the examiner has given me a minor fault for it and I passed.

PS: I'm so glad I passed first time! Smile
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts
Old Thread Alert!

The last post was made 13 years, 52 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful?
  Display posts from previous:   
This page may contain affiliate links, which means we may earn a small commission if a visitor clicks through and makes a purchase. By clicking on an affiliate link, you accept that third-party cookies will be set.

Post new topic   Reply to topic    Bike Chat Forums Index -> New Bikers All times are GMT
Page 1 of 1

 
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum

Read the Terms of Use! - Powered by phpBB © phpBB Group
 

Debug Mode: ON - Server: birks (www) - Page Generation Time: 0.09 Sec - Server Load: 0.48 - MySQL Queries: 16 - Page Size: 129.38 Kb