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DrDonnyBrago
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PostPosted: 12:28 - 03 Dec 2012    Post subject: Car issue - over revving when changing gear Reply with quote

Mk1 Ford focus 1.8 petrol, year 2000, 55k miles.

Right, annoying thing the car does when accelerating is that when you press the clutch to change up, the engine continues to rev for a bit. It's like the accelerator is being depressed for a fraction of a second longer than it actually is. Letting off the accelerator earlier before depressing clutch and it doesn't happen, just dipping the clutch without accelerating and it doesn't happen.

It also occasionally stalls immediately after starting on some cold days, but starts up fine the second time around. Not sure if these are related.



It's more annoying than anything, also makes smooth and fast gear changes tricky as it blips the throttle on upshifts Laughing .

Checked for leaking inlet by spraying stuff around it, didn't pick up. Was thinking perhaps a sticking throttle body/accelerator mechanism but thought to ask first in case anyone has seen similar.
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PostPosted: 13:14 - 03 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try taking the throttle body out and cleaning all the black gunk / shit out of it with petrol / carb cleaner
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PostPosted: 13:18 - 03 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Think it's a common problem, guy I used to work with had it and was fully solved when we gave the butterfly valve a good clean.
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PostPosted: 13:24 - 03 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Butterfly valve and check the MAF sensor Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 14:30 - 03 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers chums Thumbs Up .
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PostPosted: 15:58 - 03 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've had this on a few cars, including two brand new ones, I thought it was just a case of "they all do that, sir". I thought it was probably something to do with how modern cars are set up for emissions or something.
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PostPosted: 16:07 - 03 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also check the clutch position switch which sits above the clutch pedal hasn't come out of its mount. This happened on my 1998 Fiesta and caused similar issues.
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PostPosted: 16:10 - 03 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Throttle position sensors often go in these.
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PostPosted: 16:26 - 03 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

stuarthouston wrote:
Also check the clutch position switch which sits above the clutch pedal hasn't come out of its mount. This happened on my 1998 Fiesta and caused similar issues.



Now that might be worth considering. The clutch is heavily worn and the bite very high, could be the clutch switch isn't activating early enough due to high bite point.


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PostPosted: 16:28 - 03 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Surely you can just check the throttle response in neutral?
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PostPosted: 16:55 - 03 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Idle Control Valve is a common problem on these, it's located on the front of the engine.

Clean with carb cleaner. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 22:28 - 03 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Check the vacuum pipes behind the inlet manifold, common problem on these engines, they cannot be got to without dropping the inlet manifold off first but chances are one of them is split. this is what happened with my Mondeo, and as the split gets bigger your idle speed will start to creep up. it's a £20 pipe, but a 3 hour job to do at a garage.
however, get it sorted because it will bugger your clutch up. my clutch gave up at 67k in the end.
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PostPosted: 22:30 - 03 Dec 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chalky. wrote:
Idle Control Valve is a common problem on these, it's located on the front of the engine.

Clean with carb cleaner. Thumbs Up


+ 1 I've had this on an old Fiesta and an Astra, both stalling and revving by themselves.

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