Passing my test after the new laws in Jan 2013

[Paranoid Mizzter]

I'm 21 just turned a couple of months ago but I'm running into a problem, I'm away at work currently and will not have time to pass my test before the new laws come intact.

If I pass my test at 21 on the restricted license does it mean "After 2 years limited to 47bhp machine, take another test on a 600cc+ (595cc+) machine minimum power of 54bhp" that once I hit 23 I'm unrestricted?

Also another option (is it possible?) that I could pass my test in a different country than England or outside the UK and bypass these new laws by a kind of loophole?

I don't even think if I was at home I would be able to pass before they come intact anyways due to the bad weather conditions, bookings and holidays around this time of the year.

At 21 will I be able to ride say... an Aprilia RS250 or Honda VFR400 with the new laws and then theoretically an R1 or CBR1000 at 23?

[Spamalittle]

Way I understand it is if you do your A2 test when you're 21 you'll be restricted upto 47bhp for a minimum of 2 years regardless of you hitting 23. After the 2 year anniversary of you passing A2 you can take the big test on a 600cc to become unrestricted. If you've held the A2 for 2 years you can do the 600cc test at 23. If you're doing DAS the mimimum age is 24 if you don't have 2 years on an A2 licence.

All clear? .....Whaddaya mean no?!

Doubt your work around by getting your licence abroad is likely to work Points for creative effort though I think you can only drive/ride on a foreign licence for 1 year after which you have to undertake the UK tests - happy to be proved wrong by someone more in the know than me though!
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[jeddy11]

Not if its in the EU

[Paranoid Mizzter]

I run into the problem of working away quite often and doing 12 hour shifts and I cannot get the time of work so can only do it on weekends.

So I will have to wait until I'm 23 to be unrestricted completely and have to do TWO tests, FGS!

So there is no loopholes within this law that is going to be coming into power very soon?

I hate the fact we new to be motorcyclists and current motorcyclists have no say in the matter, yet you can drive a Ferrari at 17 legally.

[Paranoid Mizzter]

Actually come to think of it, it won't be too bad for me as I can still be unrestricted at 23.

I work a lot anyways so won't have too much time to be riding anyways.

Still it's a bit of a pain in the arse like!

[Spamalittle]

[Paranoid Mizzter]

[Spamalittle]

[Rogerborg]

It is a pile of wank, but it'll be consistent wank across Europe.

You can ride in the UK on a European A2/A license, but your issue will be insurance. Even though the licenses are meant to be harmonised, you'll still get insurers distinguishing between UK and EU licenses. Given what we've heard about how easy it is to get a license in some places in Europe, that's understandable.

Sorry, you'll just have to suck it up and do two blocks of tests.
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[Paranoid Mizzter]

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[Spamalittle]

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[Rogerborg]

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[Turnwise]

Doubt they could make it more complicated even if they tried!!

Here's the DSA's guide :

https://assets.dft.gov.uk/dsa/dsa-routes-to-your-motorcycle-licence.pdf

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[Rogerborg]

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[Drake]

just do some quotes, if i was you i would be getting something like a hornet or fazer if they come under the max hp. i presume you are using the bike all days/ weathers? you do not want a rs250 for that
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[Paranoid Mizzter]

[Paranoid Mizzter]

From 19th January 2013. You may take your test now on a 400cc or restricted bike (min 395cc - between 33 Bhp and 46.6 Bhp). When you pass then you can ride a restricted motorcycle producing no more than 46.6 Bhp Eg. older Kawasaki ER500 or a middleweight bike that has been professionally restricted. NOT however large bikes that originally produce more than 92 Bhp - this means pretty much everything over 600cc is excluded from you that is a modern sports bike or sports tourer. Also the power to weight ratio is set at a maximum of 0.2 Kw/Kg - this means light or smaller cc sports bikes are not allowed too.
Now wait 2 years or until you are 24 when you can train and take another test if you choose. There is no automatic progression!

H model 45.6 kW (61.2 hp) @ 12500 r/min (rpm)
L model 47.8 kW (64.1 hp) @ 13000 rpm

What does the o.2 Kw/Kg mean?

I'm confused, is the ZXR400 okay for the new laws?

[Teflon-Mike]

Hmm a lot of frustration you have young skywalker... patience you must have....

Right; you aint got a licence.

You are contemplating infantesimally irrelevent points of performance or complience of bikes you cant yet ride on a licence you dont yet have mate.....

Its like plotting a trip to outer mongolia and fretting over whether you will like the food...

Back up mate, look at the bigger picture.

Imortant bit? GET A LICENCE.

Will 46bhp be 'enough' to go on a motorway? Will an RS250 be A2 complient? GEEZ!

70mph is the maximum permissable speed limit in this country, and you can do that on an A1 complient Learner-Legal 125....... and I can ride one on the motorway. Dont have the reserves to get into the 80+mph battles with the beemers & auidi's in teh over taking lanes, but you can, IF YOU HAVE A LICENCE use one on a motorway.

So anyting with more than 15bhp and 125cc is 'Bonus' giving you more margin for safety or comfort, ..... or... lets you go faster when you try riding it on teh ragged edge.

Go ghet the licence.... learn SOMETHING and a lot of the stuff you are worrying about now will either answer itself, or as like as not become irrelevent.

Sweat the stuff that matters, and dont go looking for stuff to worry yourself with or fret and frustrate you above what you have to..... new licencing system is pain enough without making it harder for yoruself.

ONE STEP AT A TIME

DONT try crossing your bridges till you reach them

And remember, ther's no rush, life is long and when it comes to bikes, rushing is a fast way to get yourself in trouble.
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