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Its a nice idea and if time scale isn't a issue it could be done for a bargin price, however for me too many things on ebay are described as in "good condtion" and its seems my good condition and some ones elses are poles apart it can be frustrating  |
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Thats something like i want to do.... duke cafe racer,big forks,big engine...black.
Using parts i've gathered from this bike and the rest from salvage bikes of ebay.
Just finding the time and the space to do it...... one day...one day. ____________________ Ducati 916,white framed corse replica https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=239309
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For what they are, getting a rolling chassis and engine can be had for pretty cheap.
Its the little things like clocks, seats and discs that ramp up the costs.
But then if you had loads of time, you could only buy the bargain items that come on, rather than just buy whats on ebay right now.
Id like to build a 999 with a 1098 engine, or just a 1098.
But with my own spin, i wouldnt go as far as making my own fairings though  ____________________ Ducati 1299 Panigale
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Making your own fairings...
The amount of development cost/time that would go into it would probably cost you more then the rest of the bike! Assuming you do it the easy way and just make an external glass mould, sanding the contours of the fairing to get it flat enough to spray would take you days. Trust me.
If you did it properly with an internal mould and gelcoat then it would take you even more time and effort but at least you'd be able to reproduce the fairing. If you don't have much experience making fibreglass moulds and parts then its going to take you a LOT of time. Assuming you have a full time job so you'll only be working on it evenings and weekends, with a reasonably complex design its safe to say that it's going to take you a month per panel and if your doing a nose cone, two sides and a tail unit then it's going to take you 4 months to get something that resembles a reasonable fairing.
On top of this assuming you buy matting/resin/hardener/mould release/tissue/sandpaper and filler (Yes, you'll need filler) in bulk it'll still cost you at least £300 assuming you get it really cheap. Then you have to spray it etc.
It's really not a cheap and easy option, it can be worth it and the end product can be absolutely brilliant, but it can also be 4 months and hundreds of pounds wasted on something that looks like its been squeezed out of a cows anus.
Oh, and its easier to make your initial mould out of polystyrene, clay and balsa wood. Saves a lot of wasted fibreglass. ____________________ Former: Derbi GP1 50, Sachs XTC 125, Suzuki GSXR 400 GK73A, Kawasaki ZX7R, Suzuki DR250, Yamaha RD350
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| Wave2k wrote: | But over the last few days (and beers) ive been wondering how hard and most of all how cheaply this can be done compared to say buying a bike. |
Have a few more beers and keep drinking until either you cant remember the question, or with the monsterouse pounding in your head you cant stand the thought of dropping a cotton bud on the carpet, let alone a spanner on a paving slab!
Think about it; people buy bikes to break, sell the bits on e-bay and make a profit....
Ergo.... it would cost you MORE just to get all the bits of a scrap bike some-one has bought to break on the bay, than it would to buy the heap of junk ion one piece in the first place.....
Even starting with WHOLE piles of junk, I can say that most of the time bringing them back to some standard of serviceability costs more than they are worth in that standard of serviceability...
Its a great way to waste time, money and effort, make mess and alienate members of your house-hold!
BUT... if you can wrap your head around that perverse bit of masocism.... it CAN be a hole lot of fun, and enormousely satisfying to ride something you have created from a pile of scrap, and feel you have 'saved' a poor old bike from becoming a chinese washing machine......... and you just have to console yourself that you could waste as much or more money, fishing... playing golf..... riding a push-bike that dont go no-where in a gym, you have driven to stuff like that..... ____________________ My Webby'Tef's-tQ, loads of stuff about my bikes, my Land-Rovers, and the stuff I do with them!
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| Wave2k wrote: | For what they are, getting a rolling chassis and engine can be had for pretty cheap.
Its the little things like clocks, seats and discs that ramp up the costs.
But then if you had loads of time, you could only buy the bargain items that come on, rather than just buy whats on ebay right now.
Id like to build a 999 with a 1098 engine, or just a 1098.
But with my own spin, i wouldnt go as far as making my own fairings though  |
Mine was a standard 916, full strip down and rebuild took about a month/2 months.... Just got 848 forks and 848evo callipers for it.
Fairings are from Australia (who got them from china).
1098 sidestand..Carbon bits,etc....
Hopefully the main goal is to shoe horn a 1098/1198 engine in it next year, but that will involve sorting out the loom,exhaust system, custom airbox etc... more work and more time.
Frame will come off soon as i painted it and now regret not getting powder coated like the wheels.
Your only limit is your imagination,wallet and time...
BTW i think im in it for roughly £4k for the bike, £1500 for the first build and now about £1200ish for the front end up grade.
The engine will set me back about £2k ish.... plus all the other bits.
It does catch up quickly  ____________________ Ducati 916,white framed corse replica https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=239309
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I built this using E-Bay exclusively. The engine I won for £120 also came with frame, electrics, carbs, airbo and even the right hand twistgrip with throttle and master cylinder.
I wanted upside downies, R1 forks, wheel (with good tyre) and mudguard, £150.
Rear swinger, '08 blade, £15 (!!!) '08 shock £45, tyre (used but V good) £60. Chain £70, rear sprocket, £18.
929 subframe £20, seats and plastics £55.
Paint, sundry bolts etc £100.
A 'streeted 918 'blade, on the road for £630 odd. I then decided to put a front fairing on, £22 for the plastics, £30 for the headlamp, (could have stayed with the spare round lamp I had in stock).
I have now decided to mod an'08 race fairing to fit, £150 inc postage.
I have a ong way to go to spend as much as a nice carby blade would go for and I have something unique that rides very well. ____________________ The CBR900RR has been sold. Aprilia Falco worms its way into my heart.
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