Horrible CBT experience today

[highwayrider]

So you probally guessing right now that I'm some nutcase who could never be trusted to ever ride a motrobike, and the instructor had no choice but to send me home? Well sadly not the case. I turned up for my CBT today and had less than 45 mins on the bike before being told to come back another day. The reason, there was another learner who had already passed her CBT two years ago and already had her own motorbike. The instructor gave her clear preference over me which was incredebly unfair, and she was easily doing the figure of 8 monuvers while I was still learning clutch control. After the small amount of time on the bike, I could ride it no problem in second gear and stop and start fairly easy, but then was told that I need more time before the road test. I enquired that I'd had less than an hour on the bike and had booked for the full course, but was told it's normal not to be ready first time and he needed to get the other learner out on the road before it became dark. So a little after two hours I was walking the long jy journey home and needing to pay £40 more to go back. I was under the impression that the CBT was to train novices up to scratch. The instructor actually said to me about 30 mins in that "when I come back" he would work on emergency stops with me, as you need them for road riding. Being told that deffo gave my confidence a boost

The CBT was booked with CAM rider, and I have never experiend such bad service in all my life.....ever!! I can't belive I was walking home at 12 because I wasn't the same standard as the other learner!

[highwayrider]

I'm not angry because I failed, but because I had hardly any training time and clear preference was given the person who'd already been riding a motorbike for two years.

[waffles]

Any decent school will charge you a fee to get your CBT done and if you require additional training it should be at no additional cost. Giving you less than an hour, telling you to naff off and then expecting more money from you is (quite frankly) taking the piss.

Find another school and complain to the other one
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Theory test - 19/8/09, CBT - 11/10/09, MOD 1 - 16/8/10, MOD 2 - 27/10/10
Past rides Yamaha XT125X, Triumph TT600, Honda XR250
Current rides Suzuki GSXR 600, Honda MSX125

[Killer Rat]

Thats bad.

He really should have given you more time.

On my test, we took another girl along whose feet were struggling to reach the floor. She managed to drop her bike at low speed and yet the instructor persevered.

We had 8 hours of tuition, with roughly 1 hour on the actual road at the end.

He done his job properly enough within that first 7 hours to ensure we were ready for the road.

Your instructor, i'd kick his f*cking face off for that.


You paid for a whole day and he has ripped you off, he could have waited till the end of the day and then fail you if he so desired.
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[C1REX]

You can do a CBT on a scooter. It makes no difference on your certificate and make the first steps a lot easier.
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[highwayrider]

I'm so upset by it all. I honestly had less than 1 hour on the actual bike, and he already knew the girl who he was also teaching. It really annoyed me when he said "when you come back" after only 30 mins on the bike. That made the whole thing feel worthwile. Bloody CAM rider!

I did enjoy riding the little Suzuki around though

[Cyclingbiker]

I'll agree with the above posters. You've been fobbed off by an instructor with no patience to teach a new biker and looking to unnecessarily milk you for more money.

I had my CBT with One2One and, as a complete newbie, I was frankly s*** for the first 3 hours of riding, I couldn't even get the bike on the centre stand ffs. The patient instructor persevered even through me skidding on the e-stop. It took 8 hours in all but me and everyone else on the course passed (aside from a young lad whose ped broke down just before the road ride).

Kick up a fuss and/or go with another school that hires better instructors
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[waffles]

[highwayrider]

[Imonster]

Which CAM Rider site was it?

For what it's worth, if what you've said is accurate that instructor is piss poor and ought to have their ticket pulled. I'd not only be demanding my money back from www.camrider.com, but also getting in touch with the DSA about them.

While I doubt CAM Rider would give you the information, I'd also be asking whether the instructor was on a yellow or blue ticket, and when they were last assessed by the DSA.

Are there any other schools in the area other than www.camrider.com?
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[highwayrider]

[pinkyfloyd]

Personally I would report them to the DSA. The CBT is an all day course and should be whether you are renewing or are a new biker, there should be no distinction.

It seemed to me, reading that, that the instructor just wanted to get home.

The CBT consists of the following

[pooley_99]

clue in the title mate, it's compulsory basic TRAINING
Sounds like he gave you none.
I would be kicking right off!
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[highwayrider]

[cimbian]

On my CBT I was with a woman that had never sat on a bike before. We spent a long-time as she became more and more confident, I used my time to practice. The upshot was that we went over-time before hitting the road for the two-hour section... the school, just let us ride until:
a: we had completed two-hours minimum
b: until we were both at a safe standard

It was a longer day than planned but no additional cost and bloody good customer service.

The woman on the course was left with confidence to ride to work the next day and, IMHO, perfectly safely.
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[highwayrider]

[_mjs_]

Less than an hour when you paid up front? I'd be demanding my money back.

Just make sure her pimp isn't hiding in the wardrobe... oh, er sorry, wrong forum
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Current bikes: 1997 Kawasaki ZZR 600 E5 > 2006 Honda Varadero XL125V

[Cyclingbiker]

[keggyhander]

That's a pretty shoddy experience for the OP.

When I went for mine back in '92, I was on a Cub90 and I'd never been on a powered two-wheeler before. The other two were an experienced older guy on a SuperDream and a kid on a AR80 that had clearly build up his skills off-road before that. I was shit and out of my depth.

The other two were really supportive when the instructor spent more time on the manoevres with me and the instructor kept telling me that unless I felt otherwise, that HE was going to get me to road standard that day.

The reason: "Because you've paid for it, son."

[highwayrider]

[Supermoto_Fan]

That's daylight robbery, why did you even leave the premises without demanding a refund at the very least I do not know
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[pepperami]

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[Skudd]

My ex took three attempts at doing it, she only paid the once, She paid to do the CBT. She took ages to get o grips with things to do with the bike, but because she was already a driver the road bit was ok.
This was at Millenium at St Helens. I think the instructor has now changed, but I think the guy there now was taught by the first guy so may have the same ethics.

An hour or even 4 hours is no time at all in learning the basics to be on the road.

I would be going to trading standards too.
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