Poor man's dual sport

c-m · World Chat Champion Joined: 12 May 2006 Karma :

Are there any older model bikes that come close to the multistrada 1200 in terms of it's all round ability (including some very light off-road), it's weight (189kg), it's MPG and range (45mpg - 200miles), and it's engine (150hp 87.5flbs torque)?

All the magazines seem to rave about it, but they mostly go on endlessly about the electronics.

What's the poor man's alternative?
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weasley · World Chat Champion Joined: 16 Oct 2010 Karma :

Tiger 1050?
R1200 GS?
KTM 1190 Adventure?
Yamaha Super Tenere?
Versys 1000?
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hmmmnz · Super Spammer Joined: 22 Aug 2006 Karma :

having ridden the multi i can safely assure you that they are pretty over rated, i would go so far as to say that they are the worst of the list above,

i quite liked the early tiger 1050's but the new 800 is pretty damn good,
but if i was shelling out hard earned cash on an adventure bike, it wouldnt be on any 1 bike,

id buy 2, one tourer, and an single cylinder adventure bike,
costs near on zip to have an extra bike
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G · The Voice of Reason Joined: 02 Feb 2002 Karma :

None of them really meet the spec weasley, presuming the weight is to be believed.
Only the Versys has 17" wheels I think.

I was thinking a GSXR 750 - but bodge in an extra tank and make sure you're a bit gentle with the throttle Smile

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Was it the 1200 you rode hmmmnz? If so, what didn't you like about it?

I rather liked the 'idea' of it, though I don't really have a practical use for one (nor anywhere near the money to buy one, doubly so as it'd be a good bit down my list of bikes I want but don't have a 'use' for.)

hornetmike · World Chat Champion Joined: 06 May 2008 Karma :

What's wrong with the multi? Apart from service costs every 4500 miles which stopped me buying as its not really serviceable by number techs
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garth · World Chat Champion Joined: 15 Dec 2004 Karma :

https://static.blogo.it/twowheelsblog/triumph-tiger-sport-1050-2013-01/triumph-tiger-sport-1050-3.jpg~

2013 Tiger Sport just announced, 123bhp & 77 lb/ft. In dealers from March.
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G · The Voice of Reason Joined: 02 Feb 2002 Karma :

Thought 15000 major service intervals was a bit low if anything? Thought quite a few bikes were up at 24000, if not 18000.

Tiger sport only 10kg higher than the listed weight for the Ducati, so not TOO bad.
But the power is still a good chunk lower than the Ducati is listed.
The KTM 990 SMT is pretty similar specs - 198kg and power at 114hp or something.

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garth · World Chat Champion Joined: 15 Dec 2004 Karma :

Poor mans alternative possibly not - But a good chunk cheaper than a new multi, like for like.
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map · Mr Calendar Joined: 14 Jun 2004 Karma :

In terms of older bike there's the Suzuki DL1000 V-Strom.

Weight: 207kg dry 236Kg wet.
Tank: 22 litres, at least 200mile range, owners report ballpark 40mpg
Engine: 98bhp, 74lb ft torque

Also as the Kawasaki KLV1000, rarer but effectively the same bike under different plastics and badge.
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c-m · World Chat Champion Joined: 12 May 2006 Karma :

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c-m · World Chat Champion Joined: 12 May 2006 Karma :

Ducati parts are cheaper than Aprilia. In fact many Falco owners buy OEM Ducati parts when it comes to replace things.
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colin1 · Captain Safety Joined: 17 Feb 2005 Karma :

yeah ducati indicators are cheaper than triumph too, so on a tt600 the ducati ones are a better bet
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G · The Voice of Reason Joined: 02 Feb 2002 Karma :

Ah yes; I don't see it as any more an off-road bike than the GSXR750 I mentioned, thus mentioning said sports bike Smile

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c-m · World Chat Champion Joined: 12 May 2006 Karma :

Why do people think that you need a 21" wheel to ride on anything that's not tarmac?
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G · The Voice of Reason Joined: 02 Feb 2002 Karma :

I don't.
Thus mentioning a GSXR750 Smile

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Took my ZX9R with supercorsas down a green lane fine.

But prefer a bike with 21" wheels for 'proper' stuff.

Still fancy getting a pre-crashed litre bike, adding some wide bars and knobbly tyres, then doing one of the 'big bike rallies' on it.

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c-m · World Chat Champion Joined: 12 May 2006 Karma :

Right I'm back to this search now, but things have changed.

The budget now is just £2,000

Obviously there needs to be some compromise, I guess that will either be weight, or power.

A 200 mile-ish range and at least 50mpg is a must.

It needs to be pillion friendly.
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