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How do you know it's near the limiter if you have no rev counter?
YBR redlined at 10,000rpm, hit limiter around 10,500rpm. 10k in top gear, w/standard gearing is about 80mph indicated.
Honestly, if you're asking the question you already know the answer.  ____________________ Please be aware that the above post may be full of complete nonsense.
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The day i passed my test me and the girlfriend went for a ride up to the lakes and back, went there on the 'A' roads and came back on the motorway. That was a 50 mile journey on the m6 sat at 9,000rpm on a ybr 125. Like Iain said as long as you let off now and again it'l be fine aslong as its regularly serviced.
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When i was running my YBR as a courier bike it was more or less okay. However after passing my test i'd take the odd london job once or twice a week. As soon as i started doing that, come service time 400ml of oil came out, and a litre went back in.
Pushing any engine to it's limits WILL break it & blow it up. GS500's seem to do this at an indicated 110-120ish, and that wasnt on the limiter. Sure take it for the odd blast up to max speed & then back off it. Wont do it much harm.
Start smashing it along on the limiter all day every day however & it will eventually break.
4T 125 commuters are happiest cruising at around 60mph from what i've seen. What bike are we talking about?? If it's one of china's famous clones then i'd not push it as far as the limiter at all!  ____________________ Please be aware that the above post may be full of complete nonsense.
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When I take the 250 on the motorway it can get quite boring sat at 70 for long periods so I started doing little sprints. I tried long blasts at max revs but that got boring too and in the back of my mind I knew I was being cruel to the engine, so a blast now and again to keep both of us happy, and possibly makes me more alert. ____________________ Diabolical homemade music Bandcamp and Soundcloud
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| lifeisforliving wrote: | On a stretch of dual carriageway on the way back from work I usually ride my bike flat out near the limiter for 5 miles, apart from wearing my engine components faster am I risking blowing it up? It's a 4 stroke engine and the bike doesn't have a a rev counter. |
5 miles at 60mph will take 5 minutes.
5 miles at 55mph will take 5 minutes, 27 seconds
5 miles at 65mph will take 4 minutes, 36 seconds.
I doubt your motor has a 'limiter' it's just running out of puff, you might have a CDi that starts to retard the ignition beyond peak power; I doubt its killing sparks... And would tend to agree that 5 miles flat out probably wont do the thing too much harm.... provided its in reasonable fettle to start with..... thrashing bikes tends to be a good way to find where stuff's been neglected, or on the way out.
BUT.... come on! maxing the thing out for five miles? You are saving less than 50 seconds on your journey time, compared to sitting it out in the truck-lane.
STUFF whether you might trash your motor.... is 50 seconds worth putting your all into the over-taking lane and risking the wrath of the idiots in Bavarian-auto-Bahn-Bashers, and giving them yet another opportunity to have a pop at you, with ABSOLUTELY nothing left in reserve to help you get the fuck out the way?
Probably wont kill your bike; probably wont kill YOU.... but fifty seconds....... is it REALLY worth the hassle? ____________________ My Webby'Tef's-tQ, loads of stuff about my bikes, my Land-Rovers, and the stuff I do with them!
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Keep up with the oil changes and it'll probbably be much the same as the yamaha, It was 1hr stretches on the motorway that made that start burning oil not the 5min thrash on the paddock wood bypass
But seriously, check it. Litre of oil will only cost about a tenner tops for genuine branded fancy pants stuff. (£9.98 for a litre of Yamalube ) and 5-10 mins to drain the old stuff out & refill it every 4,000 miles/whatever your interval is  ____________________ Please be aware that the above post may be full of complete nonsense.
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| Teflon-Mike wrote: | | lifeisforliving wrote: | On a stretch of dual carriageway on the way back from work I usually ride my bike flat out near the limiter for 5 miles, apart from wearing my engine components faster am I risking blowing it up? It's a 4 stroke engine and the bike doesn't have a a rev counter. |
5 miles at 60mph will take 5 minutes.
5 miles at 55mph will take 5 minutes, 27 seconds
5 miles at 65mph will take 4 minutes, 36 seconds.
I doubt your motor has a 'limiter' it's just running out of puff, you might have a CDi that starts to retard the ignition beyond peak power; I doubt its killing sparks... And would tend to agree that 5 miles flat out probably wont do the thing too much harm.... provided its in reasonable fettle to start with..... thrashing bikes tends to be a good way to find where stuff's been neglected, or on the way out.
BUT.... come on! maxing the thing out for five miles? You are saving less than 50 seconds on your journey time, compared to sitting it out in the truck-lane.
STUFF whether you might trash your motor.... is 50 seconds worth putting your all into the over-taking lane and risking the wrath of the idiots in Bavarian-auto-Bahn-Bashers, and giving them yet another opportunity to have a pop at you, with ABSOLUTELY nothing left in reserve to help you get the fuck out the way?
Probably wont kill your bike; probably wont kill YOU.... but fifty seconds....... is it REALLY worth the hassle? |
I see what you are saying about not gaining much advantage, its not often I hit 70 though so it is nice in a way when the roads are empty to just max it out. If you think it is too risky then I am quite happy sitting at 60, I know when I used the riding schools ybr's we wen't on a 30 mile ride a lot of that was high rpm's and the instructor didn't say anything. I guess they don't care though because its not their bike.
I am not sure if it is a limiter, it is fuel injected. |
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All the talk of comparison with varaderos .. I'm not that mechanically minded but aren't they twin cylinders rather than singles?
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My YBR125 goes on the motorway flat out all the time. It loves it.
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 13 years, 158 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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