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keggyhander
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PostPosted: 20:35 - 10 Feb 2013    Post subject: Why don't the EU..... Reply with quote

What with all this nonsense about compulsory ABS etc etc, why don't they do us a favour and enforce the bleeding obvious?

I'm talking about self-cancelling indicators.

The american spec model of my bike has them. Why should I have the ghetto version just because it was sold in Europe.

A lot of accidents occur when left-hand indicators are left on, so that's one good reason for having them.

Any reasons for not wanting them?
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PostPosted: 20:36 - 10 Feb 2013    Post subject: Re: Why don't the EU..... Reply with quote

keggyhander wrote:
Any reasons for not wanting them?


Because they'll probably be shite and cancel at the wrong time. What's so hard about cancelling them yourself?
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PostPosted: 20:46 - 10 Feb 2013    Post subject: Re: Why don't the EU..... Reply with quote

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What's so hard about cancelling them yourself?


Tell me you've NEVER left one on..?
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PostPosted: 20:51 - 10 Feb 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm in agreement with you, Keggy, on this one.
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PostPosted: 20:53 - 10 Feb 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I can't see where the problem is. Use your left hand instead of indicators and I don't think you'd let your left hand in the air pointing left while you want to go straight Smile
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PostPosted: 21:16 - 10 Feb 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just fuck off. That's what I thought I was gonna read when I clicked this post! Laughing

Good point really. i always got taught to "sweep" every so often - road, mirrors, clocks, idiot lights, road. think it was once every 7 seconds Rolling Eyes

I followed my mate once for about 10 miles over the horseshoe pass with his indicator flashing, he was on his street fighted gsxr11, no mirrors, and ..... Ahem....I couldn't get in front of him Embarassed

My blade has an accumen alarm with an indicator reminder that starts beeping after 20 flashes. Idiot proof really Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 21:19 - 10 Feb 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone who needs self cancelling indicators on a bike should probably buy a flat cap and a Nissan Micra right now.
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PostPosted: 21:20 - 10 Feb 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I find it hard to fathom that anyone can seriously believe more EU intervention on bike 'safety features' would be a good thing.

Lots of people fall off as well, let's put on an extra couple of wheels while we're at it, and a nice steel body for extra safety.
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PostPosted: 21:23 - 10 Feb 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

MarJay wrote:
Anyone who needs self cancelling indicators on a bike should probably buy a flat cap and a Nissan Micra right now.


Or a cruiser... Razz
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PostPosted: 21:28 - 10 Feb 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joe wrote:
I find it hard to fathom that anyone can seriously believe more EU intervention on bike 'safety features' would be a good thing.


I don't look at it personally as a safety feature, more as less of an irritant. The point, which you've failed to notice, is that knowing what we do of the EU, then why have they left out something so obvious?

Every person who gets their car before a bike picks up on this. If it can work on a chuffing harley it can't be THAT difficult.
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PostPosted: 21:29 - 10 Feb 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Islander wrote:
MarJay wrote:
Anyone who needs self cancelling indicators on a bike should probably buy a flat cap and a Nissan Micra right now.


Or a cruiser... Razz


Knobhead. Who can't spell.


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PostPosted: 21:32 - 10 Feb 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

MarJay wrote:
Anyone who needs self cancelling indicators on a bike should probably buy a flat cap and a Nissan Micra right now.


I don't NEED them. I want them.

Gear indicator would be nice as well. Suzuki managed it easily enough in the late seventies.
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PostPosted: 21:34 - 10 Feb 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yamaha were fitting them on the FJ1200 back in the mists of time, probably on other bikes as well. I've had them on Goldwings and my Tiger has them. I can't see why the companies seem so reluctant to fit them as it can't cost much (any)more to fit them than not fit them.

I don't rely on them but I do prefer having them than not.
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PostPosted: 21:37 - 10 Feb 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

keggyhander wrote:
Islander wrote:


Or a cruiser... Razz


Knobhead. Who can't spell.


Takes one to know one. Thumbs Up

One typo in a thread doesn't mean I can't spell, by the way. Wink
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PostPosted: 21:53 - 10 Feb 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

My first ped (some shitty taiwanese thing) made clicking sounds similar to a car when indicating. Whats wrong with something like that as a reminder? Confused
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PostPosted: 21:58 - 10 Feb 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

krarkol wrote:
My first ped (some shitty taiwanese thing) made clicking sounds


Are you sure that was normal? Laughing Wink
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PostPosted: 22:21 - 10 Feb 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Something like this would be better than self-cancelling, IMHO:
https://www.bikevis.com/motorcycle-visual-turn-signal-reminder.html

Basically a warning light that flickers and catches one's attention
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PostPosted: 22:21 - 10 Feb 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

MarJay wrote:
Anyone who needs self cancelling indicators on a bike should probably buy a flat cap and a Nissan Micra right now.


As a fairly new rider I left my indicator on one day, think I'd pressed the button to cancel it but only clipped it so it didn't cancel.

didn't notice as I was watching the road surface, the biker in front of me waved his hand around to tell me.

I did keep getting told off for it on my CBT too!
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PostPosted: 22:22 - 10 Feb 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with the OP on this.

I rarely forget to cancel my indicators, as I'm in the habit of manually cancelling to the point that even when I go round a sharp bend in the road, I automatically click my indicator button to cancel when I come out of the bend, even though they weren't on in the first place.

Every now and then though I'll be riding along for a little while before noticing that my indicator light's still on, as I've forgotten to cancel it after a turn I made little while back Embarassed

I can't understand why self cancelling ones aren't the norm.
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PostPosted: 22:25 - 10 Feb 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with the OP on this.

I rarely forget to cancel my indicators, as I'm in the habit of manually cancelling to the point that even when I go round a sharp bend in the road, I automatically click my indicator button to cancel when I come out of the bend, even though they weren't on in the first place.

Every now and then though I'll be riding along for a little while before noticing that my indicator light's still on, as I've forgotten to cancel it after a turn I made little while back Embarassed

I can't understand why self cancelling ones aren't the norm.
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PostPosted: 22:27 - 10 Feb 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

My 87 XJ9 had them, my 83 Z11 has them and so does my 81 XJ650, along with a few other bikes I've had; I like them, I think it's a good idea, but I don't need it to be compulsory, in the same way as I don't want mandatory ABS, or any other shit the EU might care to throw at me, in the dubious name of 'safety'.

In any case, you just know if the EU get hold of it, it will come with a ridiculously loud audible warning device, so everyone will constantly be looking for that lorry that's backing up.
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PostPosted: 22:31 - 10 Feb 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

steady eddie wrote:
krarkol wrote:
My first ped (some shitty taiwanese thing) made clicking sounds


Are you sure that was normal? Laughing Wink


Its just the flasher relay clicking, no? Scooters have them upfront so the sound is more noticeable, on bikes it's generally near the back or under the seat with the other electrical gubbins, so it's less noticeable..

No point in self cancelling indicators imo, it should be second nature to flick them off after use..
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PostPosted: 22:48 - 10 Feb 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

My Virago has them and I think they are a great idea for around town....but they work on a electronic timer so if you are on a motorway and put them on for a turn off they will cancel before the exit and have to be operated again. Better just to remember to cancel them I think.
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PostPosted: 23:00 - 10 Feb 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

keggyhander wrote:

Gear indicator would be nice as well. Suzuki managed it easily enough in the late seventies.


Then buy a chinese bike! Laughing
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