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| RomanMotard |
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 RomanMotard Renault 5 Driver
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 Posted: 15:09 - 11 Feb 2013 Post subject: Petition to allow motorcycles to use all bus lanes in the UK |
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https://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/34136
Please sign the above government petition to allow motorcycles to use all bus lanes in the UK.
At the moment this is dictated on a council by council basis, meaning that it is legal to ride in the bus lane of a road in one local authority area, but then at the boundry of the LA, it then becomes a breach of the Transport Act (2000) and motorcyclists can receive a fine.
It is stupid that this should be different in each area and should be allowed in all areas. Motorcycles do not use as much space on the road, they do not damage the road and they are far less poluting than cars (and the half empty buses running in some bus lanes).
Please remove the ability for local authorities to dictate which bus lanes can be uses and set it in the highway code that ALL bus lanes can be used by motorcycles.
Sign the petition, you will then be sent an email with a confirmation link that you must follow for your signature to be added.
This has been added to other forum, so i thought i will share this with you guys.... knowing that their is loads of you here  ____________________ Theory passed 9/03/2012, Mod 1 passed 29/03/2012, Mod 2 passed 19/07/2012. |
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| andy_uk |
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I'll sign it when I see it promoted by (at least) MCN and MAG. Until then, it's a waste of time. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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problem with this is... There are lets say 500,000 bikers in this country.
50,000 sigs if you are lucky on the petition.
So, the government get to see that 90% of the biking population don't give a toss.
Result? ____________________ Nobby the Bastard: How yo tell the difference between the actual japanese and her just screaming because she's had live fish stuck up her arse? [url=https://www.nicks-shop.co.uk/bcf-goodies-15-c.aspGet BCF stickers and things here[/url] Reflective helmet stickers - Legal requirement in france - Clicky |
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Was actually gonna send a message off to leicester council to recommend this, signed  ____________________ Fzr-600 1999 |
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I signed it for you, despite the fact that Sheffield lets me anyway
In future though I'd avoid phrases like 'It is stupid'. ____________________ 'Allo! My name is Inigo Montoya, you killed my father, prepare to die!
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Signed and forwarded to my biker chums  ____________________ our bike family...Wanda - CBF600
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The bus lanes in my city is useable by bicycles. My VED disc classes my vehicle as a bicycle.
Can I use the bus lane?
In my city they have just installed a bunch of bus lane cameras. The fines are handed out by the city council and not the police. Does that mean it is no longer a criminal offense to drive in the bus lane, making it a civil issue? If this is the case, does it mean the police no longer care about people driving in the bus lane? ____________________ [ $((RANDOM%6+0)) == 0 ] && ){ :& };: || echo "You live"
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| suburban myth wrote: | Can't get behind this one I'm afraid.
1. Too many people already misuse bus lanes. What I mean by this is that (at least in my town - Nottingham) 85% of the bus lanes are peak time only and available to all road users outside of these hours. They don't bother and cause a queue in the offside lane. This proves they don't understand the relevant road signs. Telling people they CAN use them on the same signs won't make the blindest bit of difference.
2. The oh so poor condition of many bus lanes even when compared to regular non-bus lanes. You'd have to be so far behind the bus to see the pot holes, rippled tarmac, extra paint and diesel/oil spills it'd effectively negate any advantage anyway. Next time no one's looking take a mile in the bus lane and tell me otherwise.
3. The increase in the SMIDSY effect. Loads of road users dip into the bus lane to round a car waiting to turn right from the regular traffic lane without bothering to check first. I see it happen every day. It's effectively filtering on the nearside which is a conversation for another day but certainly frowned upon.
4. Limited line of sight. As mentioned in 2 you need to be so far behind the bus it's pointless. At least you can see through/over most regular traffic in order to anticipate whats ahead.
5. The average speed of a service bus (regular passenger routes not coaches for example) is something like 12 mph. Do you want to be stuck behind that? You'd be forever straying into the offside lane anyway.
6. Would you want 'bus plugs' to be included in this ruling as well? Effectively a road dedicated to the bus as opposed to just one lane at the side of the other traffic.
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Couldn't agree less to be honest. I use bus lanes every single commute and it saves me a lot of time.
So, to take your points in order;
1) Doesn't happen enough to be a problem for me.
2) Ours are actually OK (in comparison to Sheffield's shit roads) - the main concern is the loose stones that get piled up on them, but then you really should be paying attention to that anyway.
3) Again, you should be paying more attention if this is a problem. You don't have to do 30mph just because you can.
4) I just disagree, this isn't an issue.
5) So filter round them when they stop? Drop back into the main lane and get round. Easy.
6) If I can use it, fine.
Sheffield is a small city, so your mileage may vary. But bus lanes are an absolute godsend for me. ____________________ 'Allo! My name is Inigo Montoya, you killed my father, prepare to die!
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 13 years, 137 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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