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Mantzy
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PostPosted: 23:31 - 17 Nov 2004    Post subject: ZX-6R ignition problems Reply with quote

I've got a 99 zx-6r (G2) and am having problems getting it started.

The starter seems to be working fine but it won't turn over. This is worse in the morning when it's cold but this evening even when warm it wasn't working. The red oil light comes on when I turn on the bike and usually goes away when i try to start it but it wasn't this evening. Eventually i got it started by turning off the lights, turning off the ignition and then quickly turning it on and trying to start it. Is this possibly just a low battery or could it be something more?

Plus, when i try to start it in the morning, when i get it started, it generally ticks over fine for a bit and then dies, even with the choke fully on. Is there anyway to sort this? Only way i've got around it is to carry on manually revving the engine for a bit but as i live in a built up area its not ideal. Any suggestions?

Went to fill it up today and though I've done over 100 miles to my current tank, it's not taking a full 18 litres. This may be because I'm not reving it lots but when i fill it right up there isn't any fuel coming out of the breather, could it be blocked? Are the problems I'm having with the ignition be because no/little air is getting to the carbs?

Please help
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PostPosted: 02:29 - 18 Nov 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have the same problem with my yamaha yzf750r....where you from thats its cold like that?
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PostPosted: 08:24 - 18 Nov 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

My ZX6R G2 is quite tricky to start but I've got the knack now, When starting from cold just put it on full choke, Start with some throttle, Then mine revs upto about 2.5k RPM, It'll stay there for awhile (About just enough time to get my helmet and gloves on) and then the revs will die when that happens just raise the revs slightly (to about 2k) then turn the choke off completely, Keeping the revs at about 2k for about 10seconds, Rev it slightly upto about 3-4k then close the throttle and it'll idle just fine.

Are you riding until it hits the reserve then filling up? Mine does anywhere between 130-170miles before it hits reserve then I generally get about £13's worth of standard unleaded fuel in there.
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PostPosted: 11:50 - 18 Nov 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

bklynvx1 wrote:
...where you from thats its cold like that?

In East Anglia, so shouldn't be too cold. Think, judging by what DynaMight wrote, that it's just a thing with G2s (can't comment on other Ninjas)

DynaMight wrote:
Are you riding until it hits the reserve then filling up?

Trying to at least. With the problems I was having with it I thought "it could be lack of fuel" so topped it up. Only had it a few days and not run out yet.

Battery is charging atm, which I'm pleased to say is a hell of a lot easier to remove then the one on the old bike. Glad the alarm doesn't ring at me. When i reinstall it, i'm hoping the problems go away, never know. Plus, I'll attach the other cables which came with the Accumate so I don't need to remove it from now on (though if it's raining, i probably would do anyway - 240v electrics and rain. Not the best mix)

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PostPosted: 17:55 - 18 Nov 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmm...re-installed battery, and lights and everything now work. Starter motor isn't clicking now though. It's dark and I was doing it in the rain, would this cause this problem. Haynes suggested it would. Should I just wait and see if it works tomorrow once it's had a chance to dry out?

Bit annoyed though. Battery was an arse to refit, silly little square nuts are too small or the nuts are too short moreover.

HELP!
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PostPosted: 18:24 - 18 Nov 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mantzy wrote:

Bit annoyed though. Battery was an arse to refit, silly little square nuts are too small or the nuts are too short moreover.

HELP!


lol, I know EXACTLY what you mean! Took me ages to refit mine Crying or Very sad Neutral Why couldnt they just make the screw an extra 2mm longer? Bloody Kwak Middle Finger @ them

Dunno about the non-starting though, Have another try tomorrow and turn those lights off before starting.
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PostPosted: 18:38 - 18 Nov 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hahahah...i'm an idiot

Forgot i had an immobiliser

Doh!
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Claud 14.7 to 1
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PostPosted: 18:41 - 18 Nov 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dont think you have as many problems as you think.

Put the bike in the dry, and leave it for a day. Then try it. Make sure the battery is fully charged, and the terminals are connected properly and securely.

Then we'll take it from there.

When you say "starter is not clicking" do you mean the clicking sound or the actualy spinning of the starter motor.

Relax, you will sort it out Eventually . Thumbs Up
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Claud 14.7 to 1
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PostPosted: 18:43 - 18 Nov 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mantzy wrote:
Hahahah...i'm an idiot

Forgot i had an immobiliser

Doh!


Ok now we are getting somewhere. Razz

Take your time
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PostPosted: 18:45 - 18 Nov 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Umm...working fine now, bar the starting easily thing. Oops. No worries. Little time to relax and think about things and *ding* i worked it out.

Still, i'm an idiot!

Cheers all
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PostPosted: 18:55 - 18 Nov 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cool

Remeber different bikes like to be started different ways. The starting thing might not be a problem, just the way the bike works. The weather means its even harder to "find out" the way to start a bike. And having a new bike at the same time doens't help.

Bloody sports bikes are nothing but trouble. Cool Thumbs Up Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 19:38 - 18 Nov 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Having posted on MCNninjas too about it, somebody else with G2 other than DynaMight and I has problems with starting too. Must be a technical hitch with them.

Am getting it serviced possibly next week which may make a difference
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PostPosted: 16:55 - 19 Nov 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those battery screws/nuts are sods, especially if you have an alarm connected to the terminals. Makes the screw just that little bit further away from the nut.
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