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PostPosted: 07:18 - 09 Mar 2013    Post subject: Nodding origins Reply with quote

I know there's a plethora of nodding threads but this is different. Reading about the Police Velocettes of the 60s on Wikipedia I found this, which is about where the term 'noddy bike' comes from -

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Velocette

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At the time Metropolitan Police Officers on foot patrol were required to salute sergeants and inspectors. With the introduction of the Velocette LE, this became dangerous, requiring the officer to take his hand off the handle bars, and so the rider was to allowed to show his respect with a smart inclination of his head, or to put it another way, to give a smart nod. It has been suggested that this is how Velocette LEs became known as "Noddy Bikes".

However, Noddy (the popular cartoon character created by British children's author Enid Blyton) who famously had frequent run-ins with the Policeman Mr. Plod, is also credited with being the origin.


So would this be where nodding comes from, from the fuzz? Wink
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PostPosted: 07:33 - 09 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

It may have had some influence, but it's also like the much older tradition to touch or raise one's hat when passing someone you know in the street but perhaps do not have the time to engage in conversation.

It isn't purely a biking thing, round here on the single track roads most drivers (well the locals anyway) give a little acknowledgement as usually both have to slow and tuck in to pass each other.
This can be a discreet wave or nod which is quite similar.
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PostPosted: 09:02 - 09 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

It used to be common to wave or similar to another car of the same make as yours at the time when the AA was set up to warn of police presence near by. They would salute members vehicles (denoted by the radiator badge you got when you joined up) if there was no salute it meant the police were round the corner, slow down.

Perhaps it came from there?
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PostPosted: 09:11 - 09 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

If we rode on the right hand side of the road like our European cousins we would have waved and not nodded.
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PostPosted: 09:31 - 09 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maruchino wrote:
If we rode on the right hand side of the road like our European cousins we would have waved and not nodded.


Why?

You could still nod abroad.
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PostPosted: 09:35 - 09 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is it true that we drive on the left side of the road as most people are right handed so back in the horse and cart days it made sense to be on the left as people drew there pistol with there right hand ?

Some old chap at work told me that , dunno if its true
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PostPosted: 09:37 - 09 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 10:49 - 09 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Letting go of the bars of a LE is no different to letting go of the bars of any other bike, indeed when an officer wanted to turn or stop they would have to make a hand signal as the bikes had no indicator or brake light. "Noddy" refereed to the Enid Blyton character as you looked a plonker riding one. I had two, they were fun in a low speed way!
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PostPosted: 11:27 - 09 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

dransy wrote:
WWW.2pass.co.uk/goodluck.htm

Huge ferking [citation needed]. Sounds like one of Teffer's stories from when he were a lad in the 1700s 1970s.

The suggestion that it was considered dangerous to salute is pretty daft. I'm just after linking to Look... Signal... Manoeuvre. As well as lots of "Keeping hwell to the hleft", our chum Tom there spends more time with his arms flapping around than he does with them on the bars.

I actually left hand salute instead of nodding, and occasionally even throw in a hand signal because it is well gangsta.
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PostPosted: 11:59 - 09 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

dransy wrote:
Is it true that we drive on the left side of the road as most people are right handed so back in the horse and cart days it made sense to be on the left as people drew there pistol with there right hand ?

Some old chap at work told me that , dunno if its true


Back in Ye Days of Knights they would joust to the left as the joust pole was carried in under the right arm.
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PostPosted: 12:56 - 09 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nodding was invented by Harley Davidson. It's an involuntary movement that happens when you rev the engine.

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PostPosted: 15:16 - 09 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

HT wrote:
Nodding was invented by Harley Davidson. It's an involuntary movement that happens when you rev the engine.

I'm cosmopolitan....I wave a leg.



Nah... HD steerers only get the ends of the beard trapped 'tween tank and belly. When they go over a bump it LOOKS like they're nodding.
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PostPosted: 01:34 - 11 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bigmal wrote:
I've noticed that in Scotland bikers generally nod to each other a lot more than they Do down south. London as ever is full of dicks who are so busy being up their own arse to be bothered to acknowledge another human being let alone biker (dons crash helmet Twisted Evil)


Nice thread revival. In London, in any weather you'll see 3 bikes every 10 seconds. Noone nods as it's not a thing. The further you get out the more people nod.
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PostPosted: 07:53 - 11 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bigmal wrote:
I've noticed that in Scotland bikers generally nod to each other a lot more than they Do down south. London as ever is full of dicks who are so busy being up their own arse to be bothered to acknowledge another human being let alone biker (dons crash helmet Twisted Evil)


Hi

I have always found the exact opposite. In London 90% of people nod, the further out I go, the less nodding goes on.

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PostPosted: 07:56 - 11 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

The ancient law is outside the M25 is nodding territory. Scotland is outside the M25.

Although some days I do, some I don't, depends if I want to make their day or not, some days I do a Rimmer 10 second twirly salute, but you need to see them early for that one.
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PostPosted: 08:51 - 11 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

anyone ever done the head shake (left to right...never right to left as lets face it, its ghey)

it makes me giggle anyway.

what happens when you pass a group of bikes do you have ride past doin some sort of pigeon dance
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PostPosted: 08:56 - 11 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pyro. wrote:
Bigmal wrote:
I've noticed that in Scotland bikers generally nod to each other a lot more than they Do down south. London as ever is full of dicks who are so busy being up their own arse to be bothered to acknowledge another human being let alone biker (dons crash helmet Twisted Evil)


Nice thread revival. In London, in any weather you'll see 3 bikes every 10 seconds. Noone nods as it's not a thing. The further you get out the more people nod.


That and you are too busy dodging buses and taxis I should imagine.
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PostPosted: 10:00 - 11 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

mudcow007 wrote:
what happens when you pass a group of bikes do you have ride past doin some sort of pigeon dance


Whenever a 'group' is encountered the following rule should be adhered to:

Nod to 1st rider.
Less pronounced nod to 2nd rider.
Sort of notion of a nod to 3rd rider.

Anyone after the 3rd is a loser. You do not have to nod to losers.

Ain't Nobody has time for that.
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PostPosted: 10:05 - 11 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

A group of bikers = one long nod so it looks like your neck is broken.
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PostPosted: 11:02 - 11 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bigmal wrote:
I've noticed that in Scotland bikers generally nod to each other a lot more than they Do down south. London as ever is full of dicks who are so busy being up their own arse to be bothered to acknowledge another human being let alone biker (dons crash helmet Twisted Evil)


You don't nod in London. Too many bikes, you'd be doing nothing else.

I found Scotland more predisposed to a wave than a nod. I like the French 'low down point' thing, very chic.
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PostPosted: 21:49 - 11 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

London bikers don't nod 'cos we're too occupied with trying not to be killed by Addison Lee cabs.
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PostPosted: 22:36 - 11 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Austrian bikers are definitely the friendliest! Always gave me nice big affable waves, one guy even waved me to come up and join him as we waited for some lights and engaged me in (perfect English) conversation.

As for France, mostly in Brittany (I took the Plymouth-Roscoff ferry). I must admit, I wish we drove on the right over here. Waving feels so friendly and cheerful. Nodding feels a bit ominous, like we are determinately acknowledging each other's role as part of some dark and grimly necessary task or cult.

When it came to Italy, though...f*ck that place. Most car drivers drove straddling the white lines.

And as for Vespa/Piaggio riders the world over, f*ck you people. Accelerating as hard as soon as the light turns green. Trying to flick your little waspish machine in front of me. Think you can beat me? Bring it on you little bitch. Let's see how you look when you fall off in those skinny jeans and faggot jacket and your gay converse shoes.


I admit I digressed a bit just then.
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PostPosted: 08:39 - 12 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

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When I was at Como (Nth Italy) I was arse-tounded by the way those Scooterists ride. It is like Death-wish/Kamikaze/Ghost-rider shit.
The Eurokratz must see this behaviour and then vote for a blanket ban on all sorts of PTW equipment. Bastirts.
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