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Benno
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PostPosted: 14:17 - 12 Mar 2013    Post subject: Chain adjustment issue Reply with quote

My chain is a bit slack (3 inches of movement!) so I need to tighten it a bit.

But there is some kind of pin over the right side nut that I can't get off (it's a castle nut, I think the correct term is - can this be undone by a normal spanner?). How do I get this thing off without breaking it?

Cleaning the bike would probably help a little bit. It's covered in much and grime Embarassed
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PostPosted: 14:20 - 12 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

You unbend the pin and pull it out.
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PostPosted: 14:31 - 12 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unless its an R shaped sprung one in which case you just pull it out Thumbs Up

Don't forget to put it back when you're done.
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PostPosted: 14:34 - 12 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Islander wrote:
Unless its an R shaped sprung one in which case you just pull it out Thumbs Up

Don't forget to put it back when you're done.


Following on from being bodge, a small nail works well too.
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PostPosted: 14:52 - 12 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

##Paddy## wrote:


Following on from being bodge, a small nail works well too.


You sir, are a legend in your own lunchtime. Thumbs Up Laughing
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PostPosted: 14:57 - 12 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

##Paddy## wrote:
Islander wrote:
Unless its an R shaped sprung one in which case you just pull it out Thumbs Up
Don't forget to put it back when you're done.
Following on from being bodge, a small nail works well too.

Only works well if you remember to put a bend in it!
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PostPosted: 15:23 - 12 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

map wrote:
##Paddy## wrote:
Following on from being bodge, a small nail works well too.

Only works well if you remember to put a bend in it!


Well if you don't you're likely to get a sharp reminder...
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PostPosted: 16:04 - 12 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Islander wrote:
Well if you don't you're likely to get a sharp reminder...

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PostPosted: 10:51 - 13 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm, OK. Seems like I'll have to bend/snap it to get it off though. Let's see what happens!
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PostPosted: 10:53 - 13 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Benno wrote:
Hmm, OK. Seems like I'll have to bend/snap it to get it off though. Let's see what happens!


Snap it, replace it with either another clip or as I said, nails work well, hammer one end round one way and other end the opposite.
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PostPosted: 12:25 - 13 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well this pin is proving very hard to take out! And there seems to be a very thick bolt/screw going through the nut. Here's a picture of what I'm working with (I know it's filthy Embarassed )

I am a total mechanical noob so forgive me Laughing

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PostPosted: 12:29 - 13 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bend the lugs on the left together then stick some thin nosed pliers in the loop end and lever/wiggle/twist it out. Maybe some WD40 and a soak for a while.

If you are going to replace it stick an R Clip in there instead. Makes it easier next time you want to adjust.

Get them on ebay cheap as chips.
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PostPosted: 12:34 - 13 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Matt B wrote:
Bend the lugs on the left together then stick some thin nosed pliers in the loop end and lever/wiggle/twist it out. Maybe some WD40 and a soak for a while.

If you are going to replace it stick an R Clip in there instead. Makes it easier next time you want to adjust.

Get them on ebay cheap as chips.


I am probably being stupid here. I'm assuming the big fat screw thing will slide out when I take out the pin.

I need to go and buy some tools then.
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PostPosted: 12:37 - 13 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm a bit lost regarding the big fat screw thing...? Should just be the split pin passing through the hole in the axle and stopping the castellated nut from turning.

Get the pin out then see.
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PostPosted: 12:42 - 13 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bend the ends of the split pin and pull it out.
Then undo the nut as a normal nut on a thread.
There is a hole in the bolt that that split pin goes through.
Much like this arrangement here:
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PostPosted: 13:36 - 13 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is so typical, I am missing the exact spanner size I need to take it off yet the nut on the other side is a different size that I have the spanner for Evil or Very Mad

Time to do some MORE tool shopping. Although before I do, I watched a video on chain adjustment and the guy only undid the axle nut on the left hand side of the bike before tightening the chain. Thinking about it, is this all I need to do since if I loosen one nut on one side surely the whole thing is loose?
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PostPosted: 13:57 - 13 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes - as long as you can get it loose enough without the axle starting to spin. Same when you re-tighten.

Have you not got an adjustable spanner that will fit the other end?
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PostPosted: 14:06 - 13 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Never begrudge buying tools - they'll serve you well in the future if you look after them. Wink
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PostPosted: 14:12 - 13 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I feel stupid. I found all the tools I need in the bike's own toolkit under the seat including a tool to undo the right-side axle nut Embarassed

Both axle nuts are so f*cking tight though! Can't get them undone. Going to have another go later, soaked them with some WD40 for now.
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PostPosted: 15:02 - 13 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rear spindle nuts are done up pretty tight. Try putting a piece of piping or similar over the end of the spanner that goes on the castellated nut to give you some additional leverage. Bike tool kits often come with something designed to slip over the end of the spanner for exactly this purpose. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 15:16 - 13 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Islander wrote:
...a piece of piping or similar over the end of the spanner that goes on the castellated nut to give you some additional leverage...

Or search for breaker bar.
Halfords do them, not cheap though. £25 for a 19" one (click here for page). You'll need the 3/4" socket(s) for the nut(s) also. However, that'd be an investment in tools you can use in the future. The professional range is guaranteed for life if you keep the receipt safe (although I notice they sell repair kits for them!).

That said I'm sure they're available cheaper (e.g. 2' 1/2" drive for £12 via amazon.co.uk). Search around you might beat that (check if you will need 3/4" or 1/2" sockets).
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PostPosted: 15:26 - 13 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Islander wrote:
Rear spindle nuts are done up pretty tight. Try putting a piece of piping or similar over the end of the spanner that goes on the castellated nut to give you some additional leverage. Bike tool kits often come with something designed to slip over the end of the spanner for exactly this purpose. Thumbs Up


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