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PostPosted: 18:02 - 12 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

My brother had the same problem with HSBC, the fee for dropping into an informal overdraft is £25 a throw. They kept banging these on him and he ended up paying them £125 one month. Hardly a way of helping people get out of trouble! He asked them for an arranged overdraft... and they said no. He pleaded hardship and they wouldn't remove the charges.

I'm sure I read somewhere that they will waive the charges if those will force you into complete hardship. If their fees are more than you're receiving in benefits, then you've got a good case!

I will see if I can find the information I was reading a few months back.

Incidentally, my brother moved banks to NatWest who happily gave him an overdraft, and he is now sorted out. Dealing with HSBC was a truly miserable experience for me also, and I've now moved all my accounts to First Direct, who are fantastic (and ironically part of the HSBC group!). Vote with your feet.
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PostPosted: 18:17 - 12 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry, I'm struggling to find it. If you Google "HSBC informal overdrafts" there are a lot of forums discussing it, including Moneysavingexpert and Consumer Action Group. HSBC seems to be singled out as one of the worst banks for this kind of behaviour.

Speak to HSBC, but if you don't get any joy with them, it's worth speaking to Citizens' Advice.

Hope that helps a little, good luck getting it sorted out. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 18:50 - 12 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had this issue a some years ago. I simply stopped using the account - I was lucky that I had an employer who were happy to pay me cash for a while. I then opened an account with the then-woolwich, who were happy to take on a lowlife, debt-ridded wastrel like me with a standard account with no credit facilities.

I walked away from HSBC and they eventually stopped sending me letters, and the account eventually dropped off my credit file.

With the absence of sensible, basic accounts these days, see if you've a local credit union who might be a little less likely to generally rub salt into the wound.

tl;dr HSBC can kiss my hairy, ginger arse. Walk away and ignore their letters until such time as they send you a summons.
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PostPosted: 19:43 - 12 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

get a job then! do not moan because YOU borrowed money thus ACCEPTING there terms and conditions, i will never understand why dole heads are allowed to borrow money! as for "starting a job" you will not last long, probably doing a work trial as i am in doubt you have the relevant MINERALS! to get through any sort of interview, your mrs looks like a wet camels arse! and yes do the doley way cash generator your phone, before you worry about a new phone contract GET A STEADY JOB FFS!

lastly, i hope they rape you
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PostPosted: 19:54 - 12 Mar 2013    Post subject: Re: HSBC informal over draft charges. Reply with quote

JiveBunny wrote:

My account is now £140 in debt was £118 but I had to pay my phone bill to get the restriction lifted.



A/ live within your means
B/ if you cant change your means see answer A
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PostPosted: 20:35 - 12 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

JiveBunny wrote:

Will I be able to open an account at Barclays with being in debt at HSBC? Also how long does it usually take? I sign on Thursday so will need to update my payment info.

I will be able to afford to pay HSBC back with a few weeks of work I do not want to be black listed and not be able to get a mobile contact etc.


Only one way to find out! I suspect that a credit union/building society (if you can find such a thing!) might be more amenable if one of the big banks won't help you out.

Try one of these, on the basis that they'll take undischarged bankrupts, but if you're only a couple of hundred in hock to HSBC you'll probably be all right.

A single default won't balls it all up for you in the short term (I managed to re-clear my security clearance and get a mortgage whilst having a couple, you should be ok to carry on your phone contract, or even get a new one), and once you default the interest is frozen - if they punt it to a debt collector you can basically set your own terms, and I suspect that might be the easiest option.

If HSBC are not going to be reasonable, then breach your contract and let them do the running - you can do without them eating all your income when you can least afford it. They'll get their money back, but it should be on equitable terms, not a death by a thousand penalty charges.
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PostPosted: 20:44 - 12 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

140 quid?

Is there no-one you can borrow the money from to sort this out?

That is probably the best way out, given that it's not a mind-shattering sum. Friends, family?
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PostPosted: 20:48 - 12 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

im not jumping on the hate bandwagon ( its more of a runaway train now )

quite simply you didnt need to have the restriction on your phone lifted, instead of paying the £22 or whatever, you could have gotten a pygo from tesco etc for £10 with free credit.
sold your s2 and still been contactable by the agency's for work.
what about selling your bikes? if you cant afford to put fuel in them whats the point having them sit there? let alone paying for the repairs and upkeep on them?

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To your answer A; I never asked to be made redundant when I took out all my direct debits I was living well with in my means.


WAS is the keyword there,adapt to your current life instead of moaning about your past one
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PostPosted: 20:53 - 12 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

ohh, on a side note if you find you cant get a bank accout from the highstreet banks etc,

i belive the post office have accounts specifically aimed at those on benefits, with poor credit history etc, comes with a debit card etc

but you shouldnt have too much trouble getting a regular account
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PostPosted: 20:59 - 12 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

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To your answer A; I never asked to be made redundant when I took out all my direct debits I was living well with in my means.


WAS is the keyword there,adapt to your current life instead of moaning about your past one


No, the statement is simply completely false.

Living within your means is just that. You spend less than you earn.

Taking out a loan is not spending less than you earn. It's inherently risky because if (realistically, when) your situation changes, the loan stays stable.
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PostPosted: 21:02 - 12 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mobile phone is a bloody luxury IMHO and it smokes my kipper when I think I am one of the working ones paying for bleedin' luxuries!

Values are all screwed in my opinion. why should the state stop your debts rising? If the OD continues to rise, tough. Deal with it when you get into work.

How are you accessing the web? Unless it is through a terminal at the library or job centre sell it to pay your debts IT IS ALSO A LUXURY!!!
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PostPosted: 21:07 - 12 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Mobile phone is a bloody luxury IMHO and it smokes my kipper when I think I am one of the working ones paying for bleedin' luxuries!

Values are all screwed in my opinion. why should the state stop your debts rising? If the OD continues to rise, tough. Deal with it when you get into work.

How are you accessing the web? Unless it is through a terminal at the library or job centre sell it to pay your debts IT IS ALSO A LUXURY!!!


I'm not so sure.
There are many things I'd sell before I go into debt, but access to the net and _some_ mobile phone are pretty much baseline I'd think.

I'm applying for jobs at the moment and the contact is via e-mail. I've been called on my mobile phone (I don't have a land line).

Regardless - a pay as you go mobile phone can cost nothing. Handset for a tenner (or free from friends if it's old and naff, to be honest), 10p a minute from GiffGaff.

The other side of the coin is that they're really not that expensive. Food is baseline 10-15 quid a week unless you're absolutely taking the mick and eating nothing but noodles (cool scurvy, bro).
My mobile costs me 1.25 a week. Net access on the phone would probably take that to 2.50.
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PostPosted: 21:09 - 12 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

JiveBunny wrote:
I do not want it getting out of control.

Not really anyone I can ask I have always got out of my own shit though.


No-one?

The reason I call it 'not a mind shattering sum' is that if you actually have any real friends at all, they would help you out with that. I would do it for my friends. As long as I actually trusted them. Have you asked anyone in the past? If not, once won't harm.

I mean, you could even offer to make it worth their while, 140 quid now, you pay back 150 next month. Job done, everyone wins.
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PostPosted: 21:09 - 12 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a similar experience with HSBC some years ago. Natwest is also crap for the same reasons. In the end I just paid off the debts (student ODs) and don't use the bank accounts anymore. Barclays are by far the best and now they get all the benefits of being my sole bank, with several accounts with them.

Don't listen to the haters and the BS posts in this thread mate, mostly just trying to get a rise out of you or blow off some steam from a shit day at work or some ill harboured hatred of god knows what. My advice would be to open up an account with Barclays tomorrow with an agreed OD of £250 (assuming they'll grant you that) and pay off your HSBC debt with that. You'll pay interest on the Barc OD but at least you won't incur anymore bullshit charges and it'll give you time to pay back the debt. I wouldn't walk away from the debt it may come back to bite you in the ass.

Also, have you tried going into the bank to speak with them in person? For cheap calls get the uk landline number from the 'say no to 0870' website Wink
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PostPosted: 21:11 - 12 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

JiveBunny wrote:


More of a necessity besides I took it out the contract four years ago almost and renewed 18 months ago I can't simply just stop paying it.

I require my laptop and internet connection to job search.

Just to remind you JSA is a measly £55 a week that is not a luxury. It is shit.


Internet access for job searching is available at libraries and job centres. Sell the laptop and pay the debts. £55 will go a lot further if you cut your cloth to suit your means and run without debt.
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PostPosted: 21:26 - 12 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

JiveBunny wrote:
cimbian wrote:
Mobile phone is a bloody luxury IMHO and it smokes my kipper when I think I am one of the working ones paying for bleedin' luxuries!

Values are all screwed in my opinion. why should the state stop your debts rising? If the OD continues to rise, tough. Deal with it when you get into work.

How are you accessing the web? Unless it is through a terminal at the library or job centre sell it to pay your debts IT IS ALSO A LUXURY!!!


More of a necessity besides I took it out the contract four years ago almost and renewed 18 months ago I can't simply just stop paying it.

I require my laptop and internet connection to job search.

Just to remind you JSA is a measly £55 a week that is not a luxury. It is shit.


what a load of absolute bollocks! measly 55 ? council tax benefit ? housing benefit? you ungrateful twat!

you do not require internet or laptop, as previously said, use the job center or the library, which funnily enough us tax payers also PROVIDE YOU

why don't you pawn whatever the hound of a mrs buys you (more than likely with our money)? or just kill yourself, that is fine too, fucking parasite, burden on society, seriously DIE
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PostPosted: 21:28 - 12 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Derivative wrote:
cimbian wrote:
Mobile phone is a bloody luxury IMHO and it smokes my kipper when I think I am one of the working ones paying for bleedin' luxuries!

Values are all screwed in my opinion. why should the state stop your debts rising? If the OD continues to rise, tough. Deal with it when you get into work.

How are you accessing the web? Unless it is through a terminal at the library or job centre sell it to pay your debts IT IS ALSO A LUXURY!!!


I'm not so sure.
There are many things I'd sell before I go into debt, but access to the net and _some_ mobile phone are pretty much baseline I'd think.

I'm applying for jobs at the moment and the contact is via e-mail. I've been called on my mobile phone (I don't have a land line).

Regardless - a pay as you go mobile phone can cost nothing. Handset for a tenner (or free from friends if it's old and naff, to be honest), 10p a minute from GiffGaff.

The other side of the coin is that they're really not that expensive. Food is baseline 10-15 quid a week unless you're absolutely taking the mick and eating nothing but noodles (cool scurvy, bro).
My mobile costs me 1.25 a week. Net access on the phone would probably take that to 2.50.


it is a shame he has no such mentality, probably smoking drinking and sky tv are the reason he has no money, oh and a bike
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