SORN £100 Fine help please *UPDATED

[garth]

Hi

I have a bike where my insurance expired, and the tax was still running.

The DVLA sent me a nasty letter saying your bike is not sorned, please sorn it else we will fine you £100.

I sorned it there and then, sent off the tax disc to get a refund. Haven't cashed the cheque yet though.

They've now sent me a nasty letter saying I have to pay them £100 as it wasn't sorned early enough.

Do I? Will they take me to court?

I know it's been covered time and time again, I just don't want to get into any trouble. I can scan the letter up here tonight if it helps.

[Rogerborg]

[0l0dom0l0]

They did this to me.

Best bit was, I'd sorned the bike and cashed the cheque, then they tried to tell me I hadn't done either.

I did it online and found the letter I filled in in my downloads on the PC so sent that and they left me alone.

Maybe look for the same thing?
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[garth]

[garth]

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and then


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I think I uploaded them in the wrong order. Do I have to pay?

[Wonko The Sane]

They look like the same letter to me?

So, hang on, the top of the letter says your SORN started in Dec 2012 and the offence is dated as being in Jan 2013?

So, basically they're saying that you've not insured it while the bike was on SORN (evidence on the same letter they've sent) so the letter actually clears you of the same offence it accuses you of?

or have I missed something?
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[yambabe]

[Im-a-Ridah]

This reminds me, I need to find the case to cite for sent vs delivered to the incompetent jobsworth scum (DVLA).

[johnsmith222]

Keep that letter for sure!

I'd be taking it to court with that letter for sure.

[Wonko The Sane]

[garth]

Sorry - Might not be clear. When the bottom letter was sent, the bike wasn't sorned.

I immediately sorned, they sent me the confirmation slip.

They then sent me the second letter (top) which I scanned in with the confirmation of SORN on top for all you to see on here.

[garth]

Edit, they are the same letter, my error.

1st letter dated 17/01 as above

SORN declared straight away

SORN confirmation recieved 22/01

Second letter (identical, except 'FINAL NOTICE') recieved 04/03

[yambabe]

But they have backdated your SORN, so according to their own letter your vehicle was legal on the date that they state.

They can't have it both ways, if your SORN hadn't started til AFTER the alleged date they could fine you. It didn't, so I don't think they can.

But like I said, pepipoo.
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[skatefreak]

I would send them a polite letter telling asking them to check their records as the vehicle was SORN'd at the time of the alleged offence and that you have letters from them proving this.
This seems to be an own goal on their behalf.

What a bunch of muppets heh.

[Boxing]

My bike will be on the road at the end of this month, when the insurance is sorted.

This is what DVLA site said when I tried to declare SORN.

[LordShaftesbu...]

[garth]

[LordShaftesbu...]

And the SORN confirmation was a letter from whom ... ?

[garth]

[Wonko The Sane]

So, to clarify, the SORN certificate states it was SORNED when the alleged offence took place?

The DVLA's own paperwork puts you firmly in the clear?

Might as well write them a letter, but I'd get some popcorn ready for the impending court failure (on the DVLA's side) on the way home unless someone manages to see the fact that they're not going to win this one.
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