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mudcow007
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PostPosted: 11:17 - 13 Mar 2013    Post subject: Kill switch MOT? Reply with quote

still havent been able to figure out why my kill switch doesnt kill my engine but turns headlight/ instrument back lights on or off

will it fail the MOT if the kill switch doesn't kill the engine?
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PostPosted: 11:20 - 13 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, not a tested item.

If you are worried about him trying it, remove the button and put tape over the hole.
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PostPosted: 11:51 - 13 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Top banana!

have some Karma

also.....the old girls got a bit of an oil leak (from behind the flywheel) the crank shaft oil seal has been done, but still seems to be leaking

im guessing thats a bit dirty failure on MOT
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PostPosted: 11:54 - 13 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yup.

What I would do is ride there, get there early. Let it cool and cover gap with metal putty then gaffer tape.
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PostPosted: 12:59 - 13 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

nice

i was thinking of using a thicker oil an hoping it wouldn't leak as much

your idea is way more bodge-tastic

cheers
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PostPosted: 13:24 - 13 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

How bads the oil leak. Wouldn't worry about it to be fair.

Just stick some tape over the killswitch. No need to remove the button?

What bike is it? A suzuki I'm guessing...?
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PostPosted: 13:29 - 13 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm guessing a CG.. removing the button isn't necessary but is currently redundant Laughing

Bodgetastic is the way forward.
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PostPosted: 15:23 - 13 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

aye a vintage 84 CG of awesome-nous

i wonder if i seal the sprocket cover the oil wont be able to leak onto the floor...ah ha!

silicone here we come....
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PostPosted: 15:25 - 13 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Add some cardboard and sponge into the gap behind it to catch the oil first.
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PostPosted: 16:05 - 13 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Noted cheers

while im on the subject of oil leaks any ideas where the oil will be coming from?

i havent taken the flywheel off yet so its hard to guess but my only thought is crankshaft?
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PostPosted: 16:06 - 13 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Find where its coming from, clean the engine and all surrounding areas, use talcum powder to find the leak.
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PostPosted: 16:19 - 13 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

will do cheers ears!
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PostPosted: 22:22 - 13 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just seen your problem I'm guessing it would be the lights and spark or ignition wiring the wrong way round from someone replacing it if I remember correctly it will be a red and a black with White tracer And a solid black on the ignition try swapping the red and black with White tracer over wire and connectors will be behind the headlight


Hope this helps brad
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PostPosted: 22:35 - 13 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

In situations like these, gaffer tape is most definitely your friend...
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PostPosted: 22:37 - 13 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

It'll be the stator plate seal I should imagine. Not a hard job providing you have an impact driver.

Not sure how these cg flywheels are done, but if it's a dry flywheel setup then it's probably the above.

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PostPosted: 22:51 - 13 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was just reading again and as mysterious rider says the sator plate is probably the offending item would imagine you would have to but a gasket set for the item or I may have on here Wink but u would have to wait till the 31st for me to post ...I would also recommend you use an impact screw driver you can get the mag off with hammer and a few touches in the right place or buy a pulled witch is also a good purchase if you ever have to replace the points but be carfull not to lose the woodruff key .... Also as your properly wondering what a sator plate is it behind the magneto that the charging system sits too. But be aware you will have to drain your oil as you will / may get electrics covered in oil as I'm aware this is a dry charging system


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PostPosted: 22:57 - 13 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it really is behind the statorplate, do yourself a favour and buy a few things, an impact driver, and a flywheel puller. Don't try and bodge them, you will round the screws if you use a normal screwdriver, and you will bend the flywheel if you use two claw hammers (yeah I tried once Laughing )

Don't bother draining the oil. Just lay the bike on it's side.

Just check and make sure it's that leaking. I haven't seen behind the cases on this bike before so it could be a number of things, but I bet I'm right.

Cheers.
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PostPosted: 08:38 - 14 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the case of pulling flywheel off a puller is a must
I thought I was clever prying on off on my cg and snapped a price off the casing Sad no a wise move
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PostPosted: 09:01 - 14 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

ahh cheers for the replies guys...really appreciate it

i intended to attack my leak last night but the power steering pump failed on the car last night so i was told (by the mrs) i had to work on that

i do have a flywheel puller so i will get that off an have a poke around. is it easy enough to do the seal if its the stator?

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PostPosted: 11:12 - 14 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depends how the stator is held on. It could just be socket bolts, in which case, happy days! If not it'll be screws. Just use the flywheel puller on the flywheel, get that off, then a few screws to the backing plate (bike should be on its side, or oil drained out of it), once they are off the plate should slide off freely. Be careful not to damage any of the wiring.

The seal leaking is probably the center one where the flywheel shaft goes through.


https://www.cmsnl.com/honda-cg125-1993-singapore_model2607/partslist/E__0900.html#results


thats the microfiche, I can't find anything as old as yours but you get the general idea, there's two oil seals, not that expensive to be fair. Parts 6 and 7.

On the plus side, just noticed it runs bolts! No need for an impact driver. Sorted!

Hope this helps mate.
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PostPosted: 12:55 - 14 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

muchas gracias!

thanks guys

prefer proper fixes than bodges

i know what im doing tonight...
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PostPosted: 13:54 - 14 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

mudcow007 wrote:
prefer proper fixes than bodges

i know what im doing tonight...


Yeah, running. Fast.

Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: 23:19 - 14 Mar 2013    Post subject: Re: Kill switch MOT? Reply with quote

mudcow007 wrote:
still havent been able to figure out why my kill switch doesnt kill my engine but turns headlight/ instrument back lights on or off

will it fail the MOT if the kill switch doesn't kill the engine?


I am a tad confused Confused , what kill switch are you taking about? a 1984 model CG125 C-E does not have a kill switch, are you confusing the headlight switch with an engine kill switch.
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PostPosted: 08:38 - 15 Mar 2013    Post subject: Re: Kill switch MOT? Reply with quote

moonzoomer wrote:
mudcow007 wrote:
still havent been able to figure out why my kill switch doesnt kill my engine but turns headlight/ instrument back lights on or off

will it fail the MOT if the kill switch doesn't kill the engine?


I am a tad confused Confused , what kill switch are you taking about? a 1984 model CG125 C-E does not have a kill switch, are you confusing the headlight switch with an engine kill switch.


on the right hand switch gear there is a switch for the lights (off, P & High) underneath of that is a switch thats says Off & On

i have a feeling my bike is a frankenbike to be honest - it has a BR-e engine but is B Reg 1984 which would make it Jap?

https://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c81/mudcow007/switch_zps2baee87f.jpg
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PostPosted: 10:28 - 15 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

My bro's has an electric start button there but has no electric start as it's as you say a franken-bike

Not known CGs to have killswitches
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