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PostPosted: 12:23 - 19 Mar 2013    Post subject: Insurance Related - Legal Protection? Reply with quote

It seems a relatively new thing to not include 'legal protection' as a standard part of the policy any more. This year I've being offered legal protection for around 33% of the insurance policy amount (£30 for legal protection on a £90 insurance policy) which makes me wonder if I actually need it or not?

Any thoughtful advice or nuggets of insight to aid me in making an informed decision? I understand it'd be used to attempt to recover my uninsured losses, but if I'm fully comprehensive, short of my riding gear, there isn't much in the way of losses.
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PostPosted: 12:25 - 19 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

You don't need it and they don't get charged £30 or anywhere near that amount for it; it's just a nice way of making up the policy charges as the commission on your premium is sum total of bugger all.

In the event of a loss where you actually need a panel solicitor, they'll be rushing to come to your aid 'for free' anyway, in a series of unwanted and unsolicited text messages and phone calls.
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PostPosted: 12:31 - 19 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

my take is it's similar to being fully comp.

You don't legally need it and you buy it in the hope of not needing it.

I pay more than I need to for my car insurance as I choose a policy that has a guaranteed courtesy car in the event of any incident / claim that has my car off the road.
My wife's job requires her to have a car otherwise she's unable to do her work so it's the extra reassurance that an incident won't stop her being able to work.
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PostPosted: 12:38 - 19 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

hmmm well, seems pointless

your fault = insurance will do anything possible to try not to pay out or as little as poss

not your fault = any ambulance chaser will take it up on a no win no fee basis

summary, legal protection is about as big a racket as PPI
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PostPosted: 13:00 - 19 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I only buy it on home insurance as it gives you advice on any legal matter - contract disputes, unfair dismissal etc.
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PostPosted: 14:37 - 19 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Home policy it's worth the peace of mind. Motor policy it's not - general rule of thumb. Won't take time to explain now as on phone and typing isn't easy but maybe when i have time
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PostPosted: 14:58 - 19 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

save your self £30 get it free here
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PostPosted: 15:08 - 19 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I remember initially refusing to buy legal cover when taking out a policy a few years ago, but after a while they phoned back to say I could have it free I believe. Don't know what they had to gain from that.


And I still don't know what it is, someone please explain what 'legal protection/cover' is Smile Thanks.
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PostPosted: 16:12 - 19 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Blurredman wrote:
Don't know what they had to gain from that.


The large referral fee they get when they sell your claim to a bunch of incompetent parasites.
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PostPosted: 16:27 - 19 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

arry wrote:
Home policy it's worth the peace of mind. Motor policy it's not - general rule of thumb. Won't take time to explain now as on phone and typing isn't easy but maybe when i have time

I'll take a guess at it, since I had a chuckle this morning while reading eBike's non-optional "legal cover". My bold

eBike wrote:
All eBike Motorcycle policies come with legal cover included in the price.

This covers you for any legal expenses (up to £100,000) you incur as the result of a non-fault accident in the insured vehicle.

This includes:
Uninsured losses (such as damage to personal property in the vehicle)
Claiming compensation for personal injuries
Hiring a replacement vehicle
Vehicle repairs (if you don't have comprehensive cover)


So, first prove that you're not at fault, then get the benefit of "cover" to recoup losses that any 3rd party's insurer would just give you anyway after admitting liability. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 17:06 - 19 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:

I'll take a guess at it, since I had a chuckle this morning while reading eBike's non-optional "legal cover". My bold

eBike wrote:
All eBike Motorcycle policies come with legal cover included in the price.

This covers you for any legal expenses (up to £100,000) you incur as the result of a non-fault accident in the insured vehicle.

This includes:
Uninsured losses (such as damage to personal property in the vehicle)
Claiming compensation for personal injuries
Hiring a replacement vehicle
Vehicle repairs (if you don't have comprehensive cover)


So, first prove that you're not at fault, then get the benefit of "cover" to recoup losses that any 3rd party's insurer would just give you anyway after admitting liability. Rolling Eyes


For some people who aren't at fault and it's in the process of being argued having those things covered in the meantime is handy, not everyone can afford to hire a car / bike while insurance gets round to paying out for a courtesy vehicle while they repair yours etc.

but I agree with you, it's a bit of a "I see you are paying the full amount in cash today, would you be interested in PPI or gap insurance with that sir?"
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PostPosted: 17:34 - 19 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

DrDonnyBrago wrote:
Blurredman wrote:
Don't know what they had to gain from that.


The large referral fee they get when they sell your claim to a bunch of incompetent parasites.


I have covered this on here before, but legal expenses insurance is a rip off and not required. As already mentioned, if the crash is your fault then that is why you have insurance in the first place. If you are not at fault and you are injured then you can get legal representation under a CFA (No win no fee) and if it is damage only then it is easy to issue proceedings against the third party.

Do a search, I have qualified this in some detail in a previous post.

As far as referral fees are concerned, from the 1st of April, referral fees are illegal.
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PostPosted: 07:41 - 20 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

T.C wrote:
from the 1st of April, referral fees are illegal.

What are they going to be billed as then? Consultancy?
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PostPosted: 16:41 - 21 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I signed up with these guys a while back https://www.freemotorlegal.co.uk/faqs.html not had to use them yet though.
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PostPosted: 17:14 - 21 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

matto wrote:
I signed up with these guys a while back https://www.freemotorlegal.co.uk/faqs.html not had to use them yet though.


If you do have to use them, I hope you have better luck than some I have spoken to who have not been that impressed.
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PostPosted: 17:16 - 21 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

PeteLockwood wrote:
hmmm well, seems pointless

your fault = insurance will do anything possible to try not to pay out or as little as poss

not your fault = any ambulance chaser will take it up on a no win no fee basis

summary, legal protection is about as big a racket as PPI


If you've been miss-sold Payment Protection Insurance I know a company who could help you claim back thousands....
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