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lifeisforlivi...
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PostPosted: 21:24 - 20 Mar 2013    Post subject: Insurance for pillion? Reply with quote

What kind of fine can you get from taking a pillion without pillion cover on your insurance? My mate has never been on a bike so I thought for a one off I would take him out although I only have a 125 so it might struggle to even take off Laughing
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Sable
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PostPosted: 21:27 - 20 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

The way I understand it :

Pillion insurance is not required by law, if you are in an accident, insurance may cover you, your bike, any third parties.

HOWEVER!

If you crash of your own accord, and your pillion is injured, they cant claim off your insurance and claim from you direct.

Imagine your mate falls off, paralyzes himself, and needs 3 million £squids of compensation for the rest of his life. Would all be claimed from you.
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lifeisforlivi...
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PostPosted: 21:31 - 20 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sable wrote:
The way I understand it :

Pillion insurance is not required by law, if you are in an accident, insurance may cover you, your bike, any third parties.

HOWEVER!

If you crash of your own accord, and your pillion is injured, they cant claim off your insurance and claim from you direct.

Imagine your mate falls off, paralyzes himself, and needs 3 million £squids of compensation for the rest of his life. Would all be claimed from you.


Probably worth ringing the insurance and maybe get covered for the day?
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PostPosted: 21:35 - 20 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe just put pillion cover on full stop.When I 1st passed test I went for no pillion cover.Come renewal time,I put pillion on,and it cost me the same as not having pillion.
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PostPosted: 21:46 - 20 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

18 year old on an SV, added it and it cost no more so would be silly not too, thought it would add a fair whack Shocked
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lifeisforlivi...
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PostPosted: 21:51 - 20 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will give them a call and see what they say, I am insured through bennetts so they will probably whack a charge on for updating my insurance. Hopefully it won't cost more, I already pay £490 fully comp which I think is loads.
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Rogerborg
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PostPosted: 22:36 - 20 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sable wrote:
If you crash of your own accord, and your pillion is injured, they cant claim off your insurance and claim from you direct.

Bzzzt, no. It's not "pillion cover", it's cover for the use of carrying a pillion. There's an important difference.

Any RTA compliant indemnity will cover any 3rd party[*] regardless of whether you insured based on that risk or not. They will get a payout from your insurer if you bin it.

The risks to the policy holder are:

#1 Getting tugged by the fuzz and prosecuted for riding without insurance, and possibly having your bike seized. I'm not saying you'll be prosecuted or successfully convicted, but the RTA does talk about "the use" of the vehicle, and that's how policies are worded, for specific "uses". See also commuting and various types of business use, and agreed mileage limits.

#2 That if you agree with your insurer that you won't take a pillion and do it anyway, they may be able to sue you to recover their money. Again, very unlikely, but be aware of it.

arry will know the full story, but I'm fairly confident that covers the highlights.

Thing is, if you have a license (other than a provisional), and your certificate of insurance doesn't specifically exclude pillion cover, you're already good to go. No need to call a commission monkey, you'll likely just get lied to anyway. Go by what you already have in writing.

[*] Possible exception of a passenger in a vehicle that they know to be stolen.
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