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PostPosted: 22:18 - 27 Mar 2013    Post subject: Becoming more confident during corners Reply with quote

Evening all,

I passed my test in the middle of January, since then I've done around 1,500 miles. However I'm not very confident when it comes to corners.

Does anyone have any tips? I also hate corners in the wet, is there anything different I need to do? I slow down more, and attempt to avoid drain covers etc.

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PostPosted: 22:33 - 27 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just wait for what little summer we have, then tip it in, and hope for the best.

Do not slow down! You can make that corner!
https://i.imgur.com/Gyd2i5D.gif

Might also be worth checking you have the suspension set up correctly for your weight and riding style.
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PostPosted: 22:47 - 27 Mar 2013    Post subject: Re: Becoming more confident during corners Reply with quote

JFK wrote:
Evening all,

I passed my test in the middle of January, since then I've done around 1,500 miles. However I'm not very confident when it comes to corners.

Does anyone have any tips? I also hate corners in the wet, is there anything different I need to do? I slow down more, and attempt to avoid drain covers etc.

Thanks Smile.


Get all your braking and speed adjustment done before you reach the corner/bend. Go through it on a neutral throttle (not slowing down, not speeding up) and gently roll the throttle on as you come out of it. Smoothness is the key.

Avoid drain/manhole covers, white lines and any other hazards but don't focus on the road surface at the corner - look through the corner to your exit. You should have the surface hazards sorted out before you're on them anyway.
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PostPosted: 22:49 - 27 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good advice, but it's hard not to focus on the road surface pot holes. Sad
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PostPosted: 22:50 - 27 Mar 2013    Post subject: Re: Becoming more confident during corners Reply with quote

Islander wrote:

Get all your braking and speed adjustment done before you reach the corner/bend. Go through it on a neutral throttle (not slowing down, not speeding up) and gently roll the throttle on as you come out of it. Smoothness is the key.

Avoid drain/manhole covers, white lines and any other hazards but don't focus on the road surface at the corner - look through the corner to your exit. You should have the surface hazards sorted out before you're on them anyway.


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PostPosted: 23:05 - 27 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

CaNsA wrote:
Good advice, but it's hard not to focus on the road surface pot holes. Sad


I think we're spoiled up here judging by the comments made about roads south. I can't see how it's cost effective paying out claims for damage to vehicles over just repairing the roads.
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PostPosted: 08:19 - 28 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

CaNsA wrote:
Good advice, but it's hard not to focus on the road surface pot holes. Sad


I read something the other day saying if you see a pot hole you can call 101 (the non-emergency line) and report the pot hole as hazardous to bikers and the police will report it to the local council who have to fill it in straight away.
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PostPosted: 08:28 - 28 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I reported a local pothole on a roundabout, est. 12ft long, 3ft wide, 1ft deep, a few weeks back.

They threw some crap in it that has gone all shiney and lumpy.
Very very lumpy and bumpy.

Reported that, a week later these appeared.
https://i.imgur.com/rtWdi3n.png

Fuck the road builder people.
Fuck them in the face with more fucks.

Anyway, back to topic.

OP, watch this 3 times over the next week.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFvU695FQEU

Yes i know its a bit ghey at times, but the info in there is awesome.
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PostPosted: 09:10 - 28 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's pot holes EVERYWHERE at the minute, absolutely huge ones, they're getting very difficult to dodge too, even worse when they're scattered all over a roundabout
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PostPosted: 09:47 - 28 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

In addition to Islander's advice up there, take the corner in a gear which puts you in the middle of your usable rev range - if you need to adjust speed halfway round you have the chance of doing it with just your wrist, instead of gears/brakes.
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PostPosted: 10:14 - 28 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

In slow out fast, and avoid potholes and drains and half a sandwich (I seriously avoided hitting one this morning like wuddafux) and those nasty little red berries made of what can only be described as gloop.

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PostPosted: 10:47 - 28 Mar 2013    Post subject: Re: Becoming more confident during corners Reply with quote

JFK wrote:
Evening all,

I passed my test in the middle of January, since then I've done around 1,500 miles. However I'm not very confident when it comes to corners.

Does anyone have any tips? I also hate corners in the wet, is there anything different I need to do? I slow down more, and attempt to avoid drain covers etc.

Thanks Smile.


Slow down.

I've been having a bit of race training recently (cars not bikes but the principle is the same...). Confidence will come as you get better and faster, the way to do that is think about the 'components of speed' smoothness, consistency and correct input at the correct time.

Smoothness will come by initially slowing yourself down.

Consistency will come by thinking about what you're doing and practice.

The correct input at the correct time will be different for someone learning. Err on the side of caution... brake early, concentrate on the number of corrections you make in the turns and power on slightly late. As you get more confident and stop correcting in turns start to brake just a smidgeon later and power on a tiny bit earlier.

Also, do everything in straight lines - brake and change down. Power on once you're upright again. Braking and accelerating whilst turning is very advanced (especially on a bike).

Also, get out on some mini motos - it did wonders for me!
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PostPosted: 11:50 - 28 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been riding a year and a half and I still suck at cornering well, I tend to just crawl round instead
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PostPosted: 13:07 - 28 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

My problem is undercutting the white line when going onto side roads, something i've been working at in my training, if i'm not undercutting i'm swannecking Razz

Got it now though I think, instructors advice was just to slow everything down and get all your signals etc in in good time, then you're not rushing
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PostPosted: 13:11 - 28 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alpha-9 wrote:


Got it now though I think, instructors advice was just to slow everything down and get all your signals etc in in good time, then you're not rushing


When is your Mod 2 Alpha?
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PostPosted: 13:15 - 28 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

dungbug wrote:
Alpha-9 wrote:


Got it now though I think, instructors advice was just to slow everything down and get all your signals etc in in good time, then you're not rushing


When is your Mod 2 Alpha?

It's in my signature....17th
Was meant to be last wednesday but they were on strike, then I couldn't get time off work to do it again till then, fuckers Mad

New bike on saturday though Very Happy
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PostPosted: 13:18 - 28 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It's in my signature....17th
Was meant to be last wednesday but they were on strike, then I couldn't get time off work to do it again till then, fuckers Mad

New bike on saturday though Very Happy


Ah, bastids. Evil or Very Mad Best of luck gent, what's the new bike?
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PostPosted: 13:22 - 28 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

how long till you bin the new on Alpha?

Seriously though good luck on the test Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 13:22 - 28 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

dungbug wrote:
Alpha-9 wrote:

It's in my signature....17th
Was meant to be last wednesday but they were on strike, then I couldn't get time off work to do it again till then, fuckers Mad

New bike on saturday though Very Happy


Ah, bastids. Evil or Very Mad Best of luck gent, what's the new bike?

XJ6, so I can do the full A if I need to, a paddy recommendation so I better not be disappointed Laughing

Anyway back to cornering, instructor guidance on long bends on NSL roads to me was:

For right hand bends hold to the left so you get a good view down the road
For left hand bends stay in the middle of your lane (not on the right on the white line as this puts you in danger)

Get your braking in before the turn and be in the right gear and speed for the turn, hold your speed, do not chop the throttle and if you need to adjust do it purely with the throttle, don't brake while leaned over and if you do need to emergency stop during a corner straighten yourself up as fast as you can before braking Thumbs Up

Shinigami wrote:
how long till you bin the new on Alpha?

Seriously though good luck on the test Thumbs Up

Hopefully never, these big bikes are so much more grounded and stable and the training went a long way to showing where I derp (i'm erratic and rush constantly for no reason) Razz
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PostPosted: 13:28 - 28 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Before you blame yourself make sure the following are in order :-

Decent rubber
Tyre pressures
Shock absorber(s)
Forks and oil OK
Headstock bearing
wheel bearings not about to collapse.

Having said that all of the above on mine are fine and I still corner like a wounded tortoise. - But at least I know it's me and not the bike. Wink


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PostPosted: 13:33 - 28 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

That was my issue too Alpha, rushed everything, think i've brought things down a peg or two now rushing wise but still catch myself doing it every now and then.

Bigger bikes are definately easier to ride than 125's though Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 13:40 - 28 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shinigami wrote:
That was my issue too Alpha, rushed everything, think i've brought things down a peg or two now rushing wise but still catch myself doing it every now and then.

Bigger bikes are definately easier to ride than 125's though Thumbs Up

Was a few things I was picked up on by instructors fairly sharpish

> Not checking mirrors before signalling
> Not checking mirrors before leading upto and after a possible hazard (seems a bit much IMO spent more time looking in mirrors than ahead)
> Following too closely
> Being aggressive with the throttle and gears, down shifting while accelerating instead of while slowing (was warned i'd rape the gears), sometimes I down shift because i'm bored of the rev range or want more responsiveness

All pretty easy stuff to correct, the instructor gave me a bollocking (bald scary woman) which calmed me down a lot, I find I get quite worked up and have to slow myself down for some reason, had it on my mod 1 when doing figure of 8 was like shhhhhhhiit then had a deep breathe and was like I'M THE BEST I GOT THIS. Passed first time Wink Thumbs Up

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PostPosted: 16:52 - 28 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good luck Alpha, deep breathe before, examiner is the Sat Nav yadda yadda yadda........You'll do it. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 20:25 - 28 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the advice Smile.

I tried watching that video, but christ its cheesy xD.
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PostPosted: 02:30 - 29 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Find a gravelly track out in the sticks and go experimenting. The bike will slither and wriggle a lot more on loose stones so you'll get a feel for how it moves about under pressure, then once you're happier with the limitations on a slippery surface like that, go back out on the road and see how you feel.

After a few sessions like that you might be more confident, plus you might find that you'll be able to sense when the bike is slipping and react to it more decisively. 'Specially in the wet.
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