Are we better off due to Thatcher?

[doggone]

Do you feel Thatcher's policies have helped you and your family ?
Not necessarily only in financial terms, but considering more opportunities in a wider sense.

[smegballs]

Seeing as I wasn't around to experience it first-hand, to me it would seem silly to be pro/anti thatcher. It's like hating/loving someone just based off of mates descriptions rather than actually meeting them.

[Chalky.]

Pretty much everything she did would have been implemented by now anyway.

She had the balls to do it quickly to save us from the shitter.

The less fortunate members of society like to moan about something.

[pinkyfloyd]

I dont think we are better off due to Thatcher. I'm a bottom feeder. I am a socialist, I live in a council flat and as a direct result of Thatcher selling off the housing stock without replenishing it I am stuck in a 2 bedroom council flat with 3 kids. We are over crowded and on the waiting list to be moved into a 3 bedroom house but we have been told it's unlikely to happen because they simply do not have the houses.
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Teflon-Mike:I think I agree with just about all Pinky has said.

[The Artist]

I think the majority of the country is agrees with most of the stuff she did.

The people that do not, shout the loudest though.

Also, I have noticed a lot of people my age going on and on about how awful she was when all they know about is the miners strike and what their parents tell them. Yet they express such a strong opinion against what she did.

[supZ]

better off back then definitely. this country was out of debt after she was done.. back to being screwed now (gee i wonder how that happened)

[pinkyfloyd]

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At the time a lot of what she did appeared to make sense and it did give the UK the kick up the backside it needed.

What seems to be forgotten is that those who came after her, both Tory and Labour, moved the stuff she did to the next level and gold plated them; for which they don't appear to be getting the blame.
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[Alpha-9]

I don't give a shit, makes no difference how we feel on the matter and I don't know fuck all about history to form a real opinion that isn't based on other people.

What's done is done.
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[Efes123]

[pinkyfloyd]

Thing is about the strikes. The majority of power strikes, public transport strikes, waterboard strikes etc was because they were striking to keep the jobs Thatcher was getting rid of.

Now logic then tells you that if Thatcher was not trying to close those companies down and sell them off, there would be no strikes as they would not be needed.
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illuminateTHEmind wrote: I am just more evolved than most of you guys... this allows me to pick of things quickly which would have normally taken the common man years to master
Hockeystorm65:.well there are childish arguments...there are very childish arguments.....there are really stupid childish arguments and now there are......Pinkfloyd arguments!
Teflon-Mike:I think I agree with just about all Pinky has said.

[supZ]

[Efes123]

[LustyLew]

It's a pity she could have foreseen the future and finished off Bob Crow before he turned into a wannabe Scargill.

He's one of the few relics insanely allowed to remain...

The whole issue with selling off public owned services is not that it should have never happened, It's that they should have been more closely watched.

Take a look at the railways. British Rail was shit. The trains were antiques, the whole infrastructure falling apart...

Privatisation could, and should have worked, but it allowed shit managers and shit companies in to make a quick buck on the back of Government subsidies.

We pay an over-inflated fare AND we pay through our taxes. Apart from poorly written contracts, there's no comeback. They are literally laughing all the way to the bank.

Now we're seeing exactly the same thing with the gas companies...

"Ohhh we've got to put prices up because the infrastructure needs updating..." Oh so the millions in PROFIT you've been making was just spunked on branding and company cars?!

People say Thatcher was a bitch, but I bet she wouldn't let them get away with it.
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[stinkwheel]

Lets consider for a moment, the other option the electorate was presented with:
https://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40617000/jpg/_40617817_kinnock_203.jpg

Yes. A balding ginger Welsh bloke. Consider where we'd be today if he'd been in charge.
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[Harold_Shand]

My dad was the best off he had ever been under Thatcher, as a driving instructor. Then he was able to buy the council house we were in, sell it, then onto a part buy / part rent then bought that, then sold it, bought another one then KAPOW!!!! sold that one at Ker-fucking-ching and bought a house now touching £500k.

He is a fan.
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Harold_Shand's theory might be the best explanation.

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[supZ]

[daemonoid]

Having seen the other anti Thatcher posts and then the results of this poll I think you can see Thatcher's problem... Those who hated her did so loudly, those who didn't were a silent majority.
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[Derivative]

The poor are loud and boorish.

[pinkyfloyd]

[Pigeon]

Even now, Councils are still selling houses to their tenants, and they are forced to accept a 30-50% discount. Which means it doesn't cover the cost of a replacement. Yet there are thousands within each authority who are on waiting lists. The news quoted something like a 7 year waiting list on average in the south of England.

I think it's fair to say that the right to buy has/had positive and negative results. As with most things in life.

[N cee thirty]

You can't replace social housing when every NIMBY rallies round about not having houses built.

That is the problem.
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[Efes123]

Actually Pinky, you're prolly right about the housing, it was a bit of a cock up. But, does it deserve the kind of vitriol that's being spewed?

And, I'll just toss his in... Why should there be any social housing? It's a relatively modern idea, there isn't any tradition going back to the middle earth ages giving people the right to cheap housing.
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