Brighton considers drug-use rooms in bid to reduce deaths

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22188476

[mysterious_rider]

I live in Brighton, and this is extremely sad.
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Surely the police wouldn't go after simple smackheads looking to get high? It is a completely uneconomical way of policing and does nothing to stop the dope slangers.....

Hang on a minute.... If we arrest loads of junkies we can claim to have really high "drugs arrests" figure and make the department look good.

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[yaigi]

Flippin 'stick a plaster on it' mentality again If there is a drug problem in your city, find the cause, instead of just fire fighting. Removing the fear of prosecution is not going to help people really is it, it's just going to encourage them surely?
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[Rogerborg]

And Brighton and Hove City Council is above the law because...?
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[yaigi]

[Flatbadger]

'Their use is one of the recommendations in an independent report commissioned by Brighton and Hove City Council. '

They could also stop Brighton being so attractive to miscreants all over the UK, which this scheme would fail miserably at.
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[smegballs]

The old swissers seem to be taking a sensible approach...

https://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/5007962.stm

from 2006.

I hate the idea of welfare and I'm in favour of giving free medical-grade dia-morphine to smackheads. Smackheads being smackheads, you pay for it one way or another anyway; you either pay in the form of med-grade heroin (which is pretty cheap) or you pay for it in the form or thefts/mugging/robberies etc etc.

I'm pretty sure the overall cost would actually be cheaper to hand it out for free. Also, handing out free smack undercuts dealers and reduces their power-base which is good in my book too.

[yaigi]

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As long as I'm not paying (even more) for the comfort and care of smackheads I couldn't give a toss what they do.
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[Rogerborg]

I would put opium drinking fountains in public parks if I thought it would cut down on burglaries and muggings.
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[woo]

sounds like HAMSTERDAM! to me.

if you dont know what Hamsterdam is watch seasn 3 of The Wire.
It was the season where one police commander got fed up of all the political and police bullshit that he put all the mid level drug dealers in a van a took them to an undisclosed location and told them either sell drugs in 3 designated areas or get busted everyday until you do.
Result was the drug scene was confined to only 3 secure areas crime levels were low, additcs got help and some treatment, drugs dealers profited and police crime stats looked amazing as they were acurate as no serious drug related crimes were taking place.
Well didnt last long maybe few months as the bosses soon found out and the shit hit the fan.

(I used to work in a police station and discussed this season with various police officers and few senior police officers who actually even though it was not real had a respect for that police commander for what he did but we all knew that for that happen in real life here in the UK would never be allowed)
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[Robby]

Smiler, there is no point in arresting smackheads for posession. At least, not the sort that would go to an injecting room because the alternative is shooting up in the street or some public toilets. You won't get any money out of them - it's all gone on smack. You may find out about their (low-level) dealer, but the police will already know about their dealer, they want to get a few levels up and arrest the serious volume dealers.

Arresting a normal person with a small amount of recreational drugs is a different matter. The (potentially flawed) moral argument is that an intervention will stop that person becoming a serious drug user. The financial argument is that you can make that person pay a fine.

You can't stop people acquiring and taking drugs. They're low volume, high value goods with a lot of very clever people thinking up new ways to smuggle them across borders. There is just too much money in the industry to stop it.

Things like injecting rooms are a first step towards society taking a more modern view of drugs. The next step is handing out free, clean smack at the injecting rooms. Then the attitude moves from "the smelly junkie dropped a dirty needle when he was stealing my computer" to "the smelly junkie knocked into me in the street as he was stumbling out of the injecting room".

Once you learn to tolerate and treat the addicts that will take drugs no matter what, then you learn to allow recreational users the occasional dabble.

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[Rogerborg]

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[Polarbear]

There are too many moralistic wankers in power to take anything like this to a sensible conclusion.

Bit like prostitution, bury your head in the sand and let the eastern european people smuggling syndicates enslave girls, or legalize it, drop the bottom out of the sex trafficking market and lose the next election.



Sod the girls, I want another 4 years of my expense account.
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