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J.M.
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PostPosted: 20:41 - 22 Apr 2013    Post subject: What cans for XJ600 with motad single system Reply with quote

I have this can on the bike currently (complete system):
https://www.mandp.co.uk/netalogue/content/images/large/GAAEXMMNX.jpg

But the bracket just above the motad badge has snapped. It's currently bodged tied up until I either replace it or get it welded. The can is really quiet, so I'd rather replace it with something that makes the bike sound a bit nicer. Hopefully my other bike will sell soon meaning I can afford to fix/replace the can. I'd really like a more beefy sound and a cheap can.

Is it a case of anything will fit if cut... or is it a case of it being a strange shape, meaning I can't just chop & swap?

Or can I make the motad sound nice and just get the bracket welded?
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PostPosted: 14:38 - 23 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

we stopped fitting badges 8 years ago (this dates it) so the can has seen some life and is unlikely to have enough to weld

your suggestion of making it sound "nicer" could mean you failing mot or just being pulled on the road - its made to maximise noise inside the legal limit and most of the "race cans" that we see on the dyno just make a racket without any significant overal power gains

if you are struggling give me a shout on ianmcdonald@motad.co.uk and I will check our ex test or seconds stock
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PostPosted: 14:42 - 23 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

That exhaust is quiet though. A loud exhaust these days is minimal fuss for most police and MOT places clearly do not care Laughing

Ideally, you would want to check the diameter of the pipe after that stupid dent thats put in there, find a slip on can with a link pipe and get it clamped on.
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PostPosted: 15:34 - 23 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

motad_uk wrote:
we stopped fitting badges 8 years ago (this dates it) so the can has seen some life and is unlikely to have enough to weld


Only around 10,000 miles, but it has been sat for a long while. The break appears clean enough with enough meat on there for a weld if needed.

motad_uk wrote:
your suggestion of making it sound "nicer" could mean you failing mot or just being pulled on the road - its made to maximise noise inside the legal limit and most of the "race cans" that we see on the dyno just make a racket without any significant overal power gains


Ah yes, but I find they don't really care around here unless it's stupidly loud. The can sounds alright, I just wish it was a bit louder. I can get an MOT no problem. Very Happy

Not a bash at your product at all. If the bracket didn't snap, it wouldn't have fussed me enough to change it. Although it's quieter than my friend's GSX600F with a stock can. Sad

motad_uk wrote:
if you are struggling give me a shout on ianmcdonald@motad.co.uk and I will check our ex test or seconds stock


Cheers for that, if I can't weld it/find a replacement then I'll drop you an email!

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Ideally, you would want to check the diameter of the pipe after that stupid dent thats put in there, find a slip on can with a link pipe and get it clamped on.


Awesome, will do this and see if I can have any luck.

The most worrying part is the angle. Will have to take a proper look.

I could run it with no can.... Thinking Laughing
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PostPosted: 16:27 - 23 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

You'll find a suitable link pipe somewhere. It will aim the exhaust in whatever direction you need
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PostPosted: 17:42 - 23 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have noticed that my new motad stainless can has a nicer sound than the old mild steel one.tis a bit louder as well Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 17:57 - 23 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had one snap in the same place, had it welded was good as new till it rot out, at the start of the can.
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PostPosted: 13:27 - 24 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've a no brand stainless 4 into one on my xj, had a simiar problem with the silencer bracket breaking, got it welded last saturday, cost me a tenner Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 13:33 - 24 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like having 2 exhausts, I feel speshul
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PostPosted: 07:10 - 25 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

sidewinder wrote:
I have noticed that my new motad stainless can has a nicer sound than the old mild steel one.tis a bit louder as well Thumbs Up


numbers on the noise meter are the same- but something about the "harder" material does make it sound "better"
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PostPosted: 08:07 - 25 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you cut the can off with an angle grinder just after the indentation on the link pipe, a generic exhaust that you'd get from M&P etc (The short, sportster style one) is the correct diameter to fit inside.

Car exhaust clamp around it with a slit in the link pipe, jobs a good 'un.
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PostPosted: 08:29 - 25 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, my other bike still hasn't sold yet so I can't really afford to let myself buy anything yet. Sad

But nice to know I should be able to put something else on there. It'll have to wait until 01/June at the earliest to get my hands on an angle grinder though. That stuff's at my dad's and I can't head home; too much revision for exams starting Wednesday!
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PostPosted: 08:36 - 25 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I found a picture for you. This was mkII version.

https://i36.tinypic.com/o09ovt.jpg


The mkI version was nicer, my dad made it for me, unfortunately the strap wasn't man enough and I lost it within 5 miles, couldn't find it again.

https://i38.tinypic.com/350jc00.jpg
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PostPosted: 09:28 - 25 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

How loud was that Laughing
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PostPosted: 09:39 - 25 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

The mk2 version wasn't as loud as the first one, because it has a removable baffle.

Both still pretty deafening though. It drowned out the tappets and clutch, winner.
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PostPosted: 10:41 - 25 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

garth wrote:
The mk2 version wasn't as loud as the first one, because it has a removable baffle.

Both still pretty deafening though. It drowned out the tappets and clutch, winner.


it looks like it would pass the "County Noise test"- the bike is in one county and the noise meter in the next one to make it pass the noise test

you guys must have a stronger disposition than me- going for a ride and hoping not be stopped by a policeman who is having a bad day and starts the ticket with excess noise and then continues onto the rest sounds like a nice ride spoiled
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PostPosted: 10:47 - 25 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

They only give you a VDRS. No fine or anything usually. I went through the Isle of Wight with a can that would scare Thor and they just said to change it and get it checked.

Changed it, got MOT place to confirm, put it back on after.

Nanny state gone mad when a guy can't have a beefy exhaust but chavs can lower the shit outta their cars, fit race harnesses and jap cans to their 1 litre Saxos.
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PostPosted: 10:54 - 25 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

motad_uk wrote:
garth wrote:
The mk2 version wasn't as loud as the first one, because it has a removable baffle.

Both still pretty deafening though. It drowned out the tappets and clutch, winner.


it looks like it would pass the "County Noise test"- the bike is in one county and the noise meter in the next one to make it pass the noise test

you guys must have a stronger disposition than me- going for a ride and hoping not be stopped by a policeman who is having a bad day and starts the ticket with excess noise and then continues onto the rest sounds like a nice ride spoiled



Then you probably wouldn't be too happy with how I was riding it inbetween the mk1 and mk2 of above.


https://i35.tinypic.com/ajuyhy.jpg



It was a little rorty like that.
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PostPosted: 11:16 - 25 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

That looks boss. Hiding the clutch rattle would be lovely. On a scale of 0 to Paddy's GSXR, what would you class that sound as? Laughing
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