Finding neutral on CBR125

Fowlersrs · World Chat Champion Joined: 30 Mar 2012 Karma :

This might seem like an odd question to ask but picked up a cbr125 last night for the mrs, nice tidy little bike, so simple it beggars belief but I have a question..

Something im really puzzled by is at a standstill it hates going into neutral from first gear? Is this normal?

If I ride it down the road I can change up lovely and then down from second to neutral quite easy, then when I coast to a stop it sits in neutral, but if I go down to first and then stop, try and engage neutral it doesnt want to play ball??

Is this something thats particular to 125's? or am I missing something? All my road bikes have never done this... need to brief the mrs on this if thats the case!!

I did have to tighten the cable slightly to move the biting point closer to the bars as to start with I almost had to let the lever right out to go anywhere, now it just this puzzling me?! Is this normal and should I leave it alone?

P. · Red Rocket Joined: 14 Feb 2008 Karma :

Release the lever a bit and rev to a few thousand rpm whilst holding the selector to go into neutral, if it works and just slips in, change the oil and adjust the cable.

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MarJay · But it's British! Joined: 15 Sep 2003 Karma :

Bikes won't go into neutral very well if the chain is too tight. This is often the cause of problems as you describe.
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P. · Red Rocket Joined: 14 Feb 2008 Karma :

Easier from 2nd than 1st.

Slack or stupidly loose on the Vara makes it impossible.

From the umpteen CBR125s I've had, it sounds normal to a degree, but usually its just a fettling of the clutch cable and oil ... or in this case also, the chain Laughing

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Turkish · Crazy Courier Joined: 09 May 2012 Karma :

If you can't get it in by rocking back and forward, slipping the clutch or revving, and the gear lever is really stiff then it's the lever adjustment.

With the lever fully returned (out), you should not be able to pull it in more than 5-10mm before feeling resistance. If it moves more than this the cable is way too slack. Measure from the ball end.
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anthony_r6 · World Chat Champion Joined: 31 Mar 2011 Karma :

When my bike doesn't slip in at a stand still I just roll it forward a few mm and it'll go in after that.
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UPDATE:

Right I've adjust it at the engine end and it's made the changing gear side of things smooth as a babies bum, no problem with first or anything.

However with the adjustment on the lever part I have it wound as close to the bars as I can get it but the biting point is still quite a way out, is this just that the cables stretched and a new one would bring the biting point closer to the bar?!