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PostPosted: 14:39 - 26 Apr 2013    Post subject: New XJ6...... Reply with quote

Ok so the VTR, while I love the bike and would be loath to get rid of it, just is not practical for all the riding I do which consists of a couple of jollies out with friends, the odd trip to cornwall once a year or so and mostly to and from work town riding.

I'm looking at the new XJ6N as its a stunning looking thing.

Anyone own one? What are they like to live with? And what do you think for someone dropping from a 100bhp thou to a 78bhp 600.

And yes G... I am possibly heading back into the IL4 game. Laughing

The reason is purely because I'm not getting younger, most of my riding around is urban and the VTR is a thirsty beast and I was looking something still fun but more fuel economic and less leaned over.
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PostPosted: 14:43 - 26 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alpha might have an older one up for sale.

You'll notice a little more revs are needed but that comes with added smoothness.

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PostPosted: 14:46 - 26 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

pinkyfloyd wrote:
The reason is purely because I'm not getting younger


Flat cap and tartan slippers sir? Mr. Green


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PostPosted: 14:46 - 26 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Horses for courses, but I wasn't that impressed with the one I (briefly) rode. Fairly bland. You'll be missing a LOT of bottom end stomp in comparison to your storm.

I've no idea how tall you are but the xj's are pretty small.

If I was in your situation and had the budget for the yam, I'd be looking at a gen2 Versys. (I am, infact. I'll be buying one probably next year). Works at road speeds, 60mpg, etc. May not appeal to your inner tart however.


What is your budget? Surely XJ6's are approaching street triple money?
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PostPosted: 14:48 - 26 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ii have the new XJ6 F/A (the fully fared one). Great bike in many ways:

- easy around town
- enough pick up to overtake at nearly any speed but not so much that you go silly fast easily
- relatively comfortable position
- looks ok
- plenty of accessories
- light
- good viability in mirrors... if you tuck in your elbows

bad:

- bit light when around 90+
- basic suspension, can't be adjusted much and is fairly hard on pillions with luggage etc
- I get a very numb bum after about 2 hours riding
- mediocre mpg - I get about 49, costs about £17 to fill up from reserve coming on

Any specific Qs?
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PostPosted: 14:52 - 26 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

garth wrote:
Horses for courses, but I wasn't that impressed with the one I (briefly) rode. Fairly bland. You'll be missing a LOT of bottom end stomp in comparison to your storm.

I've no idea how tall you are but the xj's are pretty small.

If I was in your situation and had the budget for the yam, I'd be looking at a gen2 Versys. (I am, infact. I'll be buying one probably next year). Works at road speeds, 60mpg, etc. May not appeal to your inner tart however.


What is your budget? Surely XJ6's are approaching street triple money?


Im a short arse at 5ft6. Short little legs too. It'll be used, as said, for more town riding than anything else and anyone thats been out with me can attest to. I dont ride like a twat so the extra power is wasted on me. I do love the grunt the Storm has but I just dont get out enough to justify the use and she drinks like a fish on the weekly work run.

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Alpha might have an older one up for sale.

You'll notice a little more revs are needed but that comes with added smoothness.

<G>Sure you can't stretch the budget to a used GSXR1000</G> Wink



Dont want an older one. I like the new one. As for the Gixxer. I want a more fuel economical bike and a more sensible one not something I would be silly on.
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PostPosted: 14:54 - 26 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

SV650 Question A nice pointy one has a fair low seat, not overly powerful, but probably more "in tune" with your style being a smaller twin.

Boss, Ducati Monster Wink
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PostPosted: 14:55 - 26 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Radis wrote:
Ii have the new XJ6 F/A (the fully fared one). Great bike in many ways:

- easy around town
- enough pick up to overtake at nearly any speed but not so much that you go silly fast easily
- relatively comfortable position
- looks ok
- plenty of accessories
- light
- good viability in mirrors... if you tuck in your elbows

bad:

- bit light when around 90+
- basic suspension, can't be adjusted much and is fairly hard on pillions with luggage etc
- I get a very numb bum after about 2 hours riding
- mediocre mpg - I get about 49, costs about £17 to fill up from reserve coming on

Any specific Qs?


Thats pretty much what I needed to know. The MPG is appealing. I get around 35 on a good day on my bike for about the same cost to fill up. Only time I am likely to be doing 90 or more is motorways. Could be interested to go for the S version if I buy new as they have a more comfy looking seat. Will try and get to the showroom on Tuesday and have a sit and possibly a test ride.
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PostPosted: 14:55 - 26 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got a 2012 one. Faired abs.

I love it, although its my first bike so unable to compare it to anything other than the CB500 I did my DAS on.

I'm 6ft 4 and its fine for me, did a 7 hour ride without any problems.

I get 50mpg around town, not really being sensible with it.

If you want to know anything else just let me know and I'll try and help.
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PostPosted: 14:59 - 26 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

pinkyfloyd wrote:

Thats pretty much what I needed to know. The MPG is appealing. I get around 35 on a good day on my bike for about the same cost to fill up. Only time I am likely to be doing 90 or more is motorways. Could be interested to go for the S version if I buy new as they have a more comfy looking seat. Will try and get to the showroom on Tuesday and have a sit and possibly a test ride.


Good stuff - I think the S is a bit of a minger personally, prefer the naked or the F.

If you are in London motorcycle store in shepherds bush have loads in and are selling new ones for under £5k with no accessories.
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PostPosted: 14:59 - 26 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

##Paddy## wrote:
SV650 Question A nice pointy one has a fair low seat, not overly powerful, but probably more "in tune" with your style being a smaller twin.

Boss, Ducati Monster Wink


Thought about the SV but then thought I would steer away from Twins. I figured if I was going to stick with twins I might as well stick with the Storm. Monster is appealing but dismissed as Italian tempermental beasties.
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PostPosted: 15:02 - 26 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok I've just checked and it's deffo street triple money.

Also, nowt wrong with a monster, especially 2V if looked after.

The XJ6 is just a generic japanese commuter, it will be reliable, it will be okay on fuel. It will go okay, it will stop okay and it will handle okay - but it will have very little character and sure as hell won't set your pants on fire.
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PostPosted: 15:04 - 26 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I rode my old 2010 XJ6 Divvy the other day after nearly 2 months on the superduke, so I may have some relevant input for you.

It's very low, feels quite heavy and very slow steering compared to the KTM. It's very slow as well, and took some getting used to having to use higher revs once more. But it's very smooth. I imagine it wouldn't take too long to get used to it, but until you do it will seem pretty weak.

Obviously you know what to expect, I can remember that when I was used to the XJ it was totally adequate, did everything you could ask of it, but not much more.

Radis pretty much sums it up in his post. Mpg is not as good as you'd expect, but still way better than a litre v-twin. Seat's comfy for a couple of hours, but can hurt after 3-4. It's fine, fairly good, but so are many other bikes.
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PostPosted: 15:05 - 26 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

garth wrote:
Ok I've just checked and it's deffo street triple money.

Also, nowt wrong with a monster, especially 2V if looked after.

The XJ6 is just a generic japanese commuter, it will be reliable, it will be okay on fuel. It will go okay, it will stop okay and it will handle okay - but it will have very little character and sure as hell won't set your pants on fire.


I have to agree- I only went the XJ6 as they had a 0% finance for 4 years offer on.... the striple would have been my choice if I actually had cash in the bank at the time!
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PostPosted: 15:08 - 26 Apr 2013    Post subject: Re: New XJ6...... Reply with quote

Also going to be a boring bike, despite the extra cylinders Smile.

If it wasn't for the 'leaned over' bit, I'd say have a look at a TRX850 - seen people get pretty decent mpg out of them, though I didn't.
(Paddy's already made my first suggestion, of course ... though I'd certainly classify that as boring too, just at least it's boring and fast Wink ).
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PostPosted: 15:08 - 26 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Radis wrote:


Good stuff - I think the S is a bit of a minger personally, prefer the naked or the F.

If you are in London motorcycle store in shepherds bush have loads in and are selling new ones for under £5k with no accessories.


Your thinking of the wrong S. I'm going for the naked one if I get one but torn between the standard one or the special. Pic whore to follow:


This standard one in this colour:
https://www2.yamaha-motor.fr/actu/IMG/jpg/2013-Yamaha-XJ6-EU-Race-Blu-Studio-001.jpg

Or this.... special edition version
https://cdn.yamaha-motor.eu/product_assets/2013/XJ6NSV/2013-Yamaha-XJ6NSV-EU-Matt-Grey-Studio-001.jpg?width=1600&quality=75
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PostPosted: 15:11 - 26 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like you're just ignoring the negative comments Laughing
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PostPosted: 15:14 - 26 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

garth wrote:

The XJ6 is just a generic japanese commuter, it will be reliable, it will be okay on fuel. It will go okay, it will stop okay and it will handle okay - but it will have very little character and sure as hell won't set your pants on fire.

While a monster, especially a 2v one is the equivalent of chucking some cold water on your pants.

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PostPosted: 15:18 - 26 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I quite like the look of the XJ6-N, it would more than fit my needs as a commuter and the odd rag around country lanes here and there. Definitely a fan of the N over the faired ones though.
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PostPosted: 15:20 - 26 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:
garth wrote:

The XJ6 is just a generic japanese commuter, it will be reliable, it will be okay on fuel. It will go okay, it will stop okay and it will handle okay - but it will have very little character and sure as hell won't set your pants on fire.

While a monster, especially a 2v one is the equivalent of chucking some cold water on your pants.

Wink



Rather a monster than an xj6 - Decent suspension, brakes, well proven chassis and induction roar. I agree though, not the most exciting when pushed. Doubt that's what the OP is looking for though...
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PostPosted: 15:21 - 26 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

garth wrote:
Looks like you're just ignoring the negative comments Laughing



Not at all. The negative comments are being taken on board. It'll be a serious drop in power but more practical for the uses. While the Triumph would probably be a better choice I just dont like the look of them.

As Cromwell just said. It fits the need. I use a bike for commuting 2 miles each way to work and to the shops and back. Rarely I go for a long ride. Last year I made around 5, the 3 I do with BCF, 1 to Loomies and 1 to Cornwall for a day. I have all this grunt on the Storm that I never get out of second gear for the most part.
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PostPosted: 15:21 - 26 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like the new blue....

glad you aren't going for that half fared one... still do think hard about it though as it isn't cheap and it won't set the world on fire but it is reliable and does the job with no dramas.
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PostPosted: 15:24 - 26 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

pinkyfloyd wrote:


As Cromwell just said. It fits the need. I use a bike for commuting 2 miles each way to work and to the shops and back.



2 miles?! Keep the Honda and buy a bicycle.
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PostPosted: 15:25 - 26 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think Recluso has one.

They do look quite nice Thumbs Up .
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PostPosted: 15:36 - 26 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, yea; I'd go with a bicycle for nice days at least.
Consider an electric bike if you really have serious issues with pedalling.
For most 2 mile journeys around here I'd get there in about the same time on a push bike.

Slower if I'm taking it easy, but not massively and there's a little hassle with kit etc. A lot cheaper on running costs - and you get to eat more!
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