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RyanTZR125
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PostPosted: 10:26 - 30 Apr 2013    Post subject: Rear light/stop combination? Reply with quote

I want to get rid of the separate stop lights on my H100, I've got bullets, 2 for the stop lights and one for the tail light. Is it possible to wire the brake lights to the tail light and replace the bulb for a dual fitment, creating a single stop/tail light? or is that not possible.

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I've seen the bullets on ebay, that are dual bulbs
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BULLET-RED-DUAL-FILAMENT-BRAKE-STOP-TAIL-LIGHT-MOTORCYCLE-TRIKE/370801482716?_trksid=p2045573.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D27%26meid%3D7324845790995721323%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D1011%26rk%3D1%26sd%3D370801482716%26
And the 6v bulb I think i'd need.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/6V-21-5W-BAY15D-STOP-TAIL-BULB-P384-/251260269701?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item3a80477485
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PostPosted: 12:06 - 30 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

just use the stop/ tail light off a CG?

mine is a combined brake an tail light
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PostPosted: 12:26 - 30 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm a tight twat, If its a case of just re wiring and changing the bulb for a dual fitment, then I'd do that. If that's not possible, I'd look at re placing with a suitable alternative Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 13:11 - 30 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

nowt wrong with a being tight mate

yeah you should be able to use a twin filament bulb i reckons....

or....

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PostPosted: 13:42 - 30 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

mudcow007 wrote:
nowt wrong with a being tight mate

yeah you should be able to use a twin filament bulb i reckons....

or....

clicky


Too pricey that, If I need to buy I'll go for something cheap like https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/261000314555?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649 Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 14:16 - 30 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

ahh i see your bargain hunting skills are better than mine!!
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PostPosted: 14:37 - 30 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can't use a twin filament bulb in a bulb holder that is designed for single filamet.
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PostPosted: 14:40 - 30 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

It may however have a twin filament bulb in already, and not have the brake side wired in.
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PostPosted: 14:52 - 30 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

truslack wrote:
You can't use a twin filament bulb in a bulb holder that is designed for single filamet.

It may however have a twin filament bulb in already, and not have the brake side wired in.


I'm certain its only a single filament bulb, but could possible be a dual bulb holder, is there a way of telling?

The other way is to buy
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-380-384-294-SBC-BAY15d-double-filament-bulb-holder-BRAKE-TAIL-LIGHT-/300887763805?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item460e4eeb5d
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https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/251260269701?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649
and fit them into the bullet I already have?
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PostPosted: 14:55 - 30 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well a single filament bulb won't go in a dual filament holder, due to the offset pins being different, and the contacts.

I've converted an H100 to 12v this week, so I'll be running a 12v LED tail light in that - if you can find a 6v LED stop/tail, that would be perfect for saving power, and making your headlight a bit better!
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PostPosted: 15:02 - 30 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

truslack wrote:
Well a single filament bulb won't go in a dual filament holder, due to the offset pins being different, and the contacts.

I've converted an H100 to 12v this week, so I'll be running a 12v LED tail light in that - if you can find a 6v LED stop/tail, that would be perfect for saving power, and making your headlight a bit better!


I'd be interested in how you went about converting to 12v, from what I've read up on, thought it virtually impossible?

I'll keep an eye out for 6v LED Thumbs Up But I'd rather keep it to a minimum spend (The Irish blood in me boils if I spend too much) Would you say the 2 links above, would work out, fitted into the bullet already on the bike, I would assume size wise they'd be the same, just a case of finding a way to fit then into the casing?
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PostPosted: 15:09 - 30 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fitting it into the casing would be the hard part, but theoretically possible. Piss easy to convert to 12v from what I found this week (at least for an H100A it is) -

1) get a 2 phase, 12v reg/rec off a shitty chinese scooter
2) connect the generator wires to it (the wiring colours even match the shitty scooter reg/rec),
3) fit a 12v battery from an early CG125 and connect battery wires to regulator (connect the battery to the loom as normal, in addition to regulator wire)
4) take the rectifier diode out
5) disconnect the pink wire to the ballast resistor
6) connect a black wire from inside the ignition switch, to the yellow wire that goes to the headlight switch,
7) replace bulbs and horn with 12v versions
8) Ignore the fact it has a 6v coil and CDI, these seem unaffected by the overvoltage - I'd been running them with the genny pumping out 20v for quite a while - that was the reason for the 12v conversion (I'll find out what happens long term when it's been used a bit more)
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PostPosted: 15:33 - 30 Apr 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

You make it sound so easy Rolling Eyes

Looking closer at the bullets it seems the top one is a dual fitment, with a single filament bulb fitted into it, the bulb holder has two connection points, where as the other two (Brake lights) have a single connection point, but all the bulbs are single filament, Rolling Eyes
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