cyclist roundabouts?

[Beefamus]

https://recombu.com/cars/articles/news/dutch-style-roundabouts-headed-for-london

thoughts?

https://cdn.recombu.com/cars/media/cars/news2/dutch-roundabout.jpg?3.22
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[yen_powell]

Most drivers (and bikers) I see can't work out what to do at a mini roundabout, let alone something with so many distracting lines and signs.

Older readers should remember, this is from the same people who thought leg protectors on motorbikes were a good idea even when they were behind your legs on custom style bikes.
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[DrSnoosnoo]

So as you exit a roundabout you may have to stop to give way to a cyclist? how many people are gonna get crashed up the arse initially?!
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[doggone]

Looks to need a lot of extra space, reducing road capacity in most cases so more congestion - will get the go ahead then.

[Irn-Bru]

There's no way people are going to give way to cyclists and ped's right after an exit. This will cause cyclists not to even bother using it.
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[Rogerborg]

The roundabout in that picture has separate pedalist lanes, before, on and after the roundabout.

If we implement that in a half arsed way (nobody laugh) then it'll be carnage at the exits.

Give pedalists special priority over other traffic, in one place and they'll get it in their heads that they can assert it everywhere.

Which may very well be the plan.

Although IME, some of them already ride like that said the biker like a monster hypocrite.
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[keggyhander]

I'll give way for them when they pay more road tax than me.

[pinkyfloyd]

It'll give cyclists the right of way as you exit a roundabout. Chaos, crashes and dead cyclists can only be the result.

Cant wait.
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[JonB]

[smegballs]

"122 cyclists were killed on Britain's roads in 2012"

Isn't that really good?

Out of 70 million people or so, only 122 met their end in a cycling crash in one year? That's pretty fucking pukka to my ears, and cycling is my only form of transport.

Why the need for all this extra money and hassle?

[keggyhander]

[Wonko The Sane]

looks stupid, I wouldn't use it as the speed limit for that road is most likely 30 anyway so I'd just go with traffic flow in the correct lane for my exit before ducking out the way once exited.

not sure I could actually exit the roundabout to be honest, looks a very tight turn to make if going more than 10mph, probably going to increase cyclists getting mown over.


It's a Dutch idea, where there are separate lanes for bikes, cars and pedestrians and everyone gives way to bikes, who give way to pedestrians and so the system works.
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[Rogerborg]

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[angryjonny]

[JonB]

[swampy]

[angryjonny]

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[Wonko The Sane]

[Robby]

I live in London, and work in central London. Cycling is big these days, I see far more cyclists than motorcyclists. The upshot is that they aren't anything like as self-righteous as they used to be. It is no longer a special niche form of transport with a lifestyle attached (ring any bells...)

Keeping cyclists separate from other traffic is a good thing - they go more slowly so I don't want to have to keep avoiding them. I don't see it working for roundabouts though, unless they are going to be expected to obey some traffic lights.

If you want to keep more cyclists alive, you need to educate them. The last few fatalities that I've come across have been down to a cyclists doing something bloody stupid, like overtaking a lorry on the inside on a corner and getting squashed.

[daemonoid]

[Rogerborg]

[daemonoid]

[angryjonny]