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OK... so the problem is wind in your hat.
I doubt a small bug screen would make much difference, if any, or that it would be a beneficial one, if it did.
You tend to get more turbulance around accessory screen edges, they wont deflect wind over the top of you or sheild you much, and most likely to deflect more wind at your head, probably where you least want it.
Bigger, barn-door screens.... well, if you have to look through them.... then by C&U regs they have to have windscreen wipers! Which means they would have to be glass, and effoff heavy or the perspex would scratch... so even the big-uns, don't sheild your head, they are low enough to look over the top, and you will have turbulance round the edge again.
So I dont think that a screen suggests itself very well as solution to problem posed; and if there is an off the shelf to buy answer, it's likely to lie in a 'better' (more expensive) better fitting crash hat.
So lets start with the basics.
1 - Does your hat fit you properly?
2 - Is it done up properly?
3 - Is wind getting in through un-necessary gaps? Are you using visor / vent mechanisms 'appropriately'.
4 - Is the helmet defective, or simply a cheap crappy lid? Is it the wrong type of lid? (full Face MX hat for eg)
5 - And this is the biggie...... How do you 'sit' on the bike?
Are you comfy? Have you adjusted the and foot controls to the most comfortable angles? (They are adjustable you know!) Are you sitting up bolt upright, chin up, or leaning into the wind forehead down? Are you actually sitting 'straight' not slightly sideways on the seat or anything. Do you sit towards the tank on the seat or towards the tail?
Changing how you sit on the bike and the angle you hold your head into wind blast can make a huge difference to how noisy it is, how much wind turbulance you get around it and or in it.
This is worth playing with to see what effect / changes you get.
But, first you need to look and make sure that you know what vents you have, and the difference opening or closing them has; it COULD be a really stupid thing, like a forhead vent being open and you dont know you can close it!
And following the scarf suggestion;
- have you tried a helmet liner? Thin balaclava protects helmet lining from greasy hair, and is easily washable; while also offering a bit of baffling inside the hat, that may do the trick.
- If scarf around the neck opening offers some benefit, you can buy accessory helmet skirts, that zip up around the kneck and tuck inside collar of your jacket, to block out wind.
- Some helemets come with, or you can some-times buy as an accessory, skirted chin-pieces that deflect wind away from the helmet's kneck opening..... or nose pieces to deflect breath down at vents... maybe one of those cylists monkey-masks might offer some benefit, I dont know.
In days of yore, when even a ratchet visor mechanism was a luxuary, we used to improvise with gaffer tape and brown paper..... especially at the track in the wet.... taping visors shut to get a good seal, or making little deflectors around the chin-piece, or even... taping over a rider's nose to the chin-piece so thier breath went down not up!
So, plenty of stuff to have a think about, have a mess and a play, find what works for you.... BUT a good helmet that fits properly is, for stuff like this a WONDERFUL thing, and where they are worth the money. Its little destracting irritants like this that make the difference to how safe you are and how much fun you have. Its like having a stone in your shoe... you dont watch where you are going if every step you are incing in anticipation of the discomfort, and being uncomfortable ent fun! ____________________ My Webby'Tef's-tQ, loads of stuff about my bikes, my Land-Rovers, and the stuff I do with them!
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I dislike wind blast and have fitted or extended a screen on every bike.
However, for your specific purpose I'd suggest that you try a helmet skirt.
They come in various forms, from neoprene ones where it's like shoving your head back up the birth canal, to flappy ones that velcro closed.
The common theme is that they form a seal round the edge of the helmet and so have a fighting chance to divert or slow down airflow.
I personally like the Stopwind Deluxe, but it's going to be a subjective thing. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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You could try glasses or goggles as a fix. Screens do help but you'd need a really big screen to completely remove the wind from your helmet, or tuck right in all of the time.
Or... you could turn pirate and wear an eye patch whilst riding  ____________________ 2004 R1 & 2018 XSR900 |
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