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James306
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PostPosted: 22:50 - 07 May 2013    Post subject: Someone tried to nick my bike.. Alarms? Reply with quote

So this morning I was woken up to my housemate asking if we had parked the bikes somewhere else overnight... Looked out the window and both mine and my housemates bikes had gone!!

Found my ZXR in an alleyway behind the house opposite where they had gone to town on the ignition barrel and smashed the steering lock mechanism off, then proceeded to try to hot wire it but luckily failing to do so!!

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We didn't help avoid the situation by getting a tad complacent and not locking them up that afternoon, but they managed to take 2 bikes off the front garden, about 6ft from three of us sleeping, drag them across the road and break the steering locks without anyone noticing!!

My housemate wasn't so lucky and they managed to get away with his Huoniao HN125.

As for mine, I'm thinking of getting a cheap £20 motion alarms from ebay, just so if anyone does try to drag it off again it should hopefully sound and wake someone up/put them off.

Anyone fitted them/worth the money? It's not worth me getting anything more substantial as the bike's just not worth enough to warrant it.
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PostPosted: 23:00 - 07 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I have one on each of my bikes.

I would never depend on it alone for security but it's a bit of extra peace of mind, especially if I am leaving the bike somewhere other than at home and don't have my locks & chains available.
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PostPosted: 23:07 - 07 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can grab a cheap Cyclone V2 alarm. Loud. I've just fitted one on my bike after some arse tried stealing my bike Sad
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PostPosted: 23:19 - 07 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

J.M. wrote:
You can grab a cheap Cyclone V2 alarm. Loud. I've just fitted one on my bike after some arse tried stealing my bike Sad


How are they to fit? I'm not too technical and don't really want to pass it over to a guy and pay an hour for them to fit it.
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PostPosted: 23:22 - 07 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

piss easy to fit
get a massive chain with a massive lock aswell.

loop it through the back wheel and over the back seat.
keep the chain loose so it makes as much noise as possible when moved.

Are you a member of the zxr forums?
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PostPosted: 23:41 - 07 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

ClydeGhost wrote:
How are they to fit? I'm not too technical and don't really want to pass it over to a guy and pay an hour for them to fit it.


Remarkably easy if you don't bother with the remote start.

The most difficult part on the GS500 is finding somewhere to put the alarm box. I'm not joking, that part is really difficult.
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PostPosted: 23:44 - 07 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know people slate Oxford stuff but I've had a Screamer disc lock from day one, used every day and only needed new batteries once.
Still works perfectly, I squirt a bit of WD in the key hole now and again to keep things smooth.
Very sensitive, you only have to rip the velcro on your glove and it goes off! Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 00:36 - 08 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

ClydeGhost wrote:
How are they to fit? I'm not too technical and don't really want to pass it over to a guy and pay an hour for them to fit it.


2 wires +ve and -ve straight to battery. Easy peasy.

It has other features like remote start, immobiliser, signal flash but you don't have to hook them up.
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PostPosted: 01:36 - 08 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

qb78 wrote:
I know people slate Oxford stuff but I've had a Screamer disc lock from day one, used every day and only needed new batteries once.
Still works perfectly, I squirt a bit of WD in the key hole now and again to keep things smooth.
Very sensitive, you only have to rip the velcro on your glove and it goes off! Thumbs Up


I hope that any cnut who steals my bike kills them self on it. It's 'almost' too much machine for me to handle so any Ned/Chav would die in the first corner. Inshallah..

I stopped using WD40 in lock barrels and now use Graphite powder. It doesn't dry out as it is dry to begin with but makes locks silky smooth.

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You can use it on almost anything that needs lubed. But it may make your fingers and things black.. Smile
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PostPosted: 03:16 - 08 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

J.M. wrote:
You can grab a cheap Cyclone V2 alarm. Loud. I've just fitted one on my bike after some arse tried stealing my bike Sad


The V2 is the one that goes off even if the thieves cut the battery? Thinking

Someone said either the V2 or V3 has a feature so it'll go off if the battery is cut. I have a DT so the battery is easy to get to and disconnect in minutes. So I want the one with that feature anyone know which one it is? Thinking

EDIT: upon further looking into this, only a V2 exists? Thinking Hmm, perhaps I've got some names crossed here. Laughing

And OP, that Stella box will suggest that's a hot spot for the local chavs to stand around drinking at.

And I really doubt they pulled both bikes across the road to smash the steering locks, armed with tools they probably just ripped the ZXR's steering lock off, hence it being place like that. The alleys would have been so the neighbours didn't see them. If they didn't use tools to rip it off, it's a 2-3 man job breaking the steering lock, one with a foot on one side of the bars and pulling the same way with both hands. Incredibly easy, even 13 year olds can do it. Seeing as they're the main age group to nick peds around my area. Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: 04:03 - 08 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have motion sensitive disc lock alarm, brilliant little things they are.
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PostPosted: 06:31 - 08 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="CaNsA"get a massive chain with a massive lock aswell.

Are you a member of the zxr forums?[/quote]

I have the Almax series 3 lock, I just didn't lock it up that night Sad

I am also a member on zxrworld, although I find it to be too quiet! A lot of threads seem to go unanswered.


Boxing wrote:
OP, that Stella box will suggest that's a hot spot for the local chavs to stand around drinking at.

And I really doubt they pulled both bikes across the road to smash the steering locks, armed with tools they probably just ripped the ZXR's steering lock off, hence it being place like that. The alleys would have been so the neighbours didn't see them. If they didn't use tools to rip it off, it's a 2-3 man job breaking the steering lock, one with a foot on one side of the bars and pulling the same way with both hands.


The steering lock had been ripped off, the bolts are sheared and still in the frame, along with damage to the frame where the pin scraped by Sad

Also we think it was a group of guy anyway, it takes some maneuvering to get the bikes onto the front garden, its about 10x4 ft with a small entrance in one corner! The only way they could have got them out without waking anyone would have been to life them out as they lean up against my friends bedroom window!

Think the reason they took them over to the alleyway was so they had time to work on starting them, they went about cutting and striping certain wires to do so...

As for the Stella create, I live on a road that is 98% students (2% smack heads) so it will most likely be rubbish thrown over the garden wall during BBQ season, I've never seen groups of chavs hanging around down there, one positive thing about this part of Southampton :o

Cheers for the info guys!! I think a Cyclone V2 would do the trick perfectly Smile
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PostPosted: 06:55 - 08 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have Datatool on the Firestorm. Its not all that loud though.

When the new bike arrives it comes complete with Yamaha imobiliser built in and for added protection I have already got the Cyclone V2 which I will rig up to the indicators. I have the instructions. Seems as simple as connecting the wires to the battery and placing the box and siren somewhere dry. You do get all the fittings should you wish to add the imobiliser and remote start but I wont be playing with that. Even get 2 key fobs already tuned into your box and clear instructions on setting the sensitivity.
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PostPosted: 07:06 - 08 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Boxing wrote:
J.M. wrote:
You can grab a cheap Cyclone V2 alarm. Loud. I've just fitted one on my bike after some arse tried stealing my bike Sad


The V2 is the one that goes off even if the thieves cut the battery? Thinking

Someone said either the V2 or V3 has a feature so it'll go off if the battery is cut. I have a DT so the battery is easy to get to and disconnect in minutes. So I want the one with that feature anyone know which one it is? Thinking

EDIT: upon further looking into this, only a V2 exists? Thinking Hmm, perhaps I've got some names crossed here. Laughing

And OP, that Stella box will suggest that's a hot spot for the local chavs to stand around drinking at.

And I really doubt they pulled both bikes across the road to smash the steering locks, armed with tools they probably just ripped the ZXR's steering lock off, hence it being place like that. The alleys would have been so the neighbours didn't see them. If they didn't use tools to rip it off, it's a 2-3 man job breaking the steering lock, one with a foot on one side of the bars and pulling the same way with both hands. Incredibly easy, even 13 year olds can do it. Seeing as they're the main age group to nick peds around my area. Evil or Very Mad


That was clever of you to give out tips to overcome a bike steering lock.
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PostPosted: 07:40 - 08 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a Hawk alarm with remote start/immobilisor i'm yet to fit, however when I do get round to it I'll be leaving the remote start an immobiliser off it as the bike already has HISS

Hopefully easy enough to fit
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PostPosted: 07:46 - 08 May 2013    Post subject: Re: Someone tried to nick my bike.. Alarms? Reply with quote

James306 wrote:
As for mine, I'm thinking of getting a cheap £20 motion alarms from ebay.

How about a disc lock too?

Mind you, neither's any use if you don't use them ...
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PostPosted: 08:01 - 08 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

CaNsA wrote:
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get a massive chain with a massive lock aswell.
loop it through the back wheel and over the back seat.
keep the chain loose so it makes as much noise as possible when moved...

Loop chain over seat but also make sure it can't be dragged onto the ground. This would make it easier to attach the chain and/or lock.

Boxing wrote:
...EDIT: upon further looking into this, only a V2 exists? Thinking Hmm, perhaps I've got some names crossed here. Laughing...

Errr, no! Tut Tut Looking at the motorbikealarms.co.uk site...
motorbikealarms.co.uk wrote:
Advanced V3 alarm system. Available now. The most feature packed motorcycle alarm on the market! Now with a 3 mile range paging system (tested in open space)...
ATM yours for £69.99 of your hard earned cash. The V2 is £30 ballpark (depends on features).

Also FWIW it looks like the Spy "all in one" is the only one offered by that company with battery backup atm. Details of that alarm click here. ATM £46, which IMO is cheap for that feature.

All the alarms features for the models listed on the FAQ page - see here.

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PostPosted: 08:27 - 08 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another for the Cyclone V2.

There's only two wires you NEED to fit. The ones going to the battery terminals and that will power the motion sensitive alarm. I cut all the other immobiliser and remote start jazz because I don't trust some cheap electronics to affect any of that. It just sits as a separate circuit so can't affect my other electrics ... unless it shorts
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PostPosted: 08:34 - 08 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a cyclone 2 fitted to my Hornet. It was easy enough to fit. The only concern with it is that it is incredibly easy (Especially on my bike) to just access the battery and cut the wire. I don't think it has a backup to this. So can be gotten around quite easy.
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PostPosted: 09:06 - 08 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

AnPhonEh wrote:
I had a cyclone 2 fitted to my Hornet. It was easy enough to fit. The only concern with it is that it is incredibly easy (Especially on my bike) to just access the battery and cut the wire. I don't think it has a backup to this. So can be gotten around quite easy.


Could a splice be made further away from the battery to the normal cables that connect to the battery so they are the only ones directly connected?
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PostPosted: 09:35 - 08 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Boxing wrote:
The V2 is the one that goes off even if the thieves cut the battery? Thinking


No. Thieves cut the battery and the alarm will be cut also.

You could modify it to run off of a separate battery though which is charged from the main battery. Wouldn't take too much work I suspect.
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PostPosted: 10:43 - 08 May 2013    Post subject: Re: Someone tried to nick my bike.. Alarms? Reply with quote

James306 wrote:
My housemate wasn't so lucky and they managed to get away with his Huoniao HN125.

Awwwww, that's just sad, for him and them. Sad

Personally I'd go with an alarmed disk lock, as you should be able to get that today, and so might get some sleep tonight.
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PostPosted: 10:47 - 08 May 2013    Post subject: Re: Someone tried to nick my bike.. Alarms? Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
Personally I'd go with an alarmed disk lock, as you should be able to get that today, and so might get some sleep tonight.


Also if you go down to somewhere that does heavy lifting and ask for some used heavy lifting chain, you can get a big ass chain for very little £££.

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PostPosted: 11:09 - 08 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

That Almax 3 chain you have, why not use that? You lazy, lucky numpty! Chances are the shitehawks will be back in the future better equipped for the bike, clunk click every trip.
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PostPosted: 11:18 - 08 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steering locks are broken with a good kick with heavy footwear, as they showed that one time in documentary about how easily it is done and why it so important to install a bike alarm along with a disc lock for added protection with a cover over the bike. Why? the more obstacles you put in front of a thief the more likely they will look else where for something more easy to steal, as they don't like to stay to long in the open.

I remember a cop saying that thieves love the bad weather the more worse the better it is because owners/neighbours will think it's just the weather making the alarms or something being blown about creating so much noise outside that night. They like to steal between 1am and 4am, as most people are fast asleep and with double glazed windows it has made it so much easier for prowlers to stalk the place. So, a motion detector outside light with a fake camera or not will further deter them thinking you are on candid camera!

Install a reasonably good bike alarm with a hot wiring sensor built into it in case they try to hot wire it to go. The smaller bikes are so much easier for them because the cop also stated that they usually work in teams of 4/5 (one extra being the driver or lookout) using two pieces of scaffolding pipe they each take a corner and lift it quickly on a wild night into the back of their van and if the bike is alarmed then they can quickly work on disabling because if someone looks outside they can only see parked vehicles with nobody around then ignore the alarm thinking it was just the weather causing it to go off instead rather than someone tampering with a vehicle.

1) alarm the bike and do install the light emitting diode that comes with it to show all others it is alarmed to deter them

2) disc lock to prevent walking the bike away even if the steering lock is broken by them by kicking it

3) a heavy chain with a drill proof, acid proof & freeze proof lock that cannot be broken that way to undo the chain, and if possible chain is of good quality and even better if the outer is of an metal covering rolls around it does help too to prevent sawing, but if they do have an industrial strength bolt cutter they will get through the chain or the bar on the lock you just have to make it as difficult as possible for them to make them walk away from it!

4) Data tag the parts of your bike will be of an even greater deterrent because they have to waste their time searching for them if the can, plus it makes it so much simpler for the Police to find the original owner of the stolen parts if recovered by them!
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