Urgently need help Peugeot speedfight MOT IS TUESDAY!!

[matty67832011]

I urgently need some advice with a peugeot speedfight X-Team LC i have.
I recently got the bike (barn find) had been sitting two years, finally got it running-perfect, only to find the electric start isnt working.
Ive been using the kickstart but the splines inside are F***** and i really need the electric start to work for when i sell it and for the MOT which is on tuesday. ALSO the horn is not working, niether is the fuel gauge but i dont care about that, just the horn and electric start.
Its odd that the horn and the electric start buttons are both the same on the handlebars could this be a coincidence or are they connected somehow?
Ive brought a brand new battery for the bike and yes ive checked the 5amp fuse by the battery, im not sure what to check next i know ive spent far to much out on this bike already making it look nice painted bits new battery etc etc i REALLY need a mechanics advice on this Lectric start issue and asap
Or if anyone else has had similar problem?
Oh also the temp gauge not working-saying that i havent took the bike out on the roads to really heat it right up so not sure....
so
1. ELECTRIC START BUTTON NOT WORKING (not even a clicking noise-NOTHING)
2.HORN NOT WORKIN
3.PETROL GAUGE NOT WORKING
4.TEMP GAUGE NOT WORKING

so far ive
1.checked fuse
2.brought a new battery and fully charged it
3.the lights, indicators, break lights, number plate light ALL work when bikes running and the indicators and break lights work when engines OFF and ignitions ON so thats all good.

So im guessing its going to be a electrical fault rather than starter motor fault as ive read that the starter motor would at least make a CLICK noise if power was being sent to it?
PLEASE help need this sorted by tuesday well monday latest.


Thank u All

[at106]

To test the horn use a multimeter to see if any power is getting to it. If there is power try tapping the horn as sometimes this can make them work, you may have to rev the engine a bit for it to work. If there is no power you'll have to trace the wires back probably to the horn button, the contacts may need cleaning.

The starter motor will only work if the brakes are applied at the same time. If you've tried this then again you'll have to test if you're getting power using a multimeter. You can also run a jump lead from the + terminal of the battery and touch it onto the starter motor terminal and it should turn if it works.

[CaNsA]

1st of all, this isnt urgent.

you have a full weekend to sort this out.

2nd of all, dont make a 3rd thread you retard.

[map]

As said above electric start only works if you apply left lever. Microswitch on that may be faulty or not as same must be done if kick starting it.

Actually electric start not needed for MOT. My lad's Varadero just passed and he has to push start that every time.
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[Ariel Badger]

The only one you need for the MOT is the horn.
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[matty67832011]

Thanks guys for the replies ill check the things youve suggested.

thanks CaNzA for putting that Discusting picture under my other thread you fkng childish little nob i will be reporting that

Just gonna go try the starter motor direct from battery cheers every1

[matty67832011]

Just tried jump lead straight from battery to possitive on starter motor= nothing.... not even a click.
whats this mean? battery not charged enough starter motor shite or earth no good on starter?
Bearin in mind this bike has sat in a barn for last two years id expect corrosion on a lot of places just dunno where to start i always thought if starter motor gone it would at least make a click noise....

[Ariel Badger]

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[matty67832011]

just give the starter a slap and wire straight from red straight to battery and it worked and started but still not from the button on the bars so should i take that appart and clean or is there anything along the wiring loom between start button and starter motor that i should also check? Any mature help would be very much appreciated
Cheers

[P.addy]

They kickstart easy enough, would just leave it like that for MOT.

Horn, just wire it to battery and bodge to your current switch. Make it look tidy and you'll be fine.

[matty67832011]

ok mate the problem is the kickstart is slipping and crunching inside the casing and maybe every 5 kicks it will catch once and maybe start if im lucky... so id rather sort the electric start than have to strip the kick start mech out and replace that ... dont look good if the mot tester cant even start the bike to test it lol and hes a rite fussy grumpy old coot where im takin it!
Ill take ur advice with the horn tho deffo a quick bodge for that... Temp and fuel gauge is not a mot failure is it?

[P.addy]

Not tested so won't fail.

Electric start wires could just be a bit crapped up. You could remove the switch gear and see if its corroded inside, again, you could bodge this but you might want to find out why its not working as intended.

[matty67832011]

yeah im gonna check switchgear in morning but have been reading up on starter relay and read that if its not the relay the relay should click but then thats actual bolox cos why would the relay click if it doesnt know im pressing the start button pfft what a load of Agro bloody french bikes!
If worse comes to worse and i bodge the starter switch straight to the motor can i cut out the relay or do ya need that there?
im not very good with electrics as u may of guessed lol wtf does a relay even do! :-/
Anyway like i say will check sqitch gear 1st, and yes my rear break light works so it knows im pulling break on.
Cheers for reply pal.

[Ariel Badger]

The MOT man does not need to start your bike up, it can go through the MOT without an engine in the frame.
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[CaNsA]

The op marked my post as "abusive".

If he thinks being called a retard is abusive, he wont last long.

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[CaNsA]

[carlosthejack...]

Just to add to that, and without wanting to be a grammar Nazi, however. Piss poor punctuation and spelling throughout:

I'll
you've
disgusting (and it doesn't need capitalising)
fucking. I mean, who puts fkng other than a total moron?

And what's with the footstamping? Piss off child unless you can respond appropriately without having to resort to something that upsets you without threatening to run off and tell your mum. Cansa's right, nobcat was fully justified and is potentially warranted again in this thread.
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[Robby]

Trying to pull the issues apart into something clear. Correct me if I'm wrong, this is what I can work out from your somewhat rambling description:

1. The electric start isn't doing anything at all on the button. When you bridge the terminals on the relay, it turns over.
2. The horn isn't working.

Are the horn and start button on the same switchgear unit? Does anything else on that switchgear unit work? If the switchgear unit is totally dead, it could just be disconnected.

Assuming it is connected, you need to get your multimeter out and start checking for continuity along the various wires, and trying a direct 12v feed on some parts.

For the horn, try applying a direct 12v feed across it. Horns do suffer from corrosion and stop working. A strong feed may free it up, try also giving it a hard tap on a hard surface. It may sound like a duck's fart at first, but a few operations will free it up.

For the starter, the relay is suspect. Again, give it a hard knock then a strong 12v feed. A car battery is worth trying.

Make sure the scooter battery is fully charged for all work.

In short, some bits may have seized up a bit. The application of a little percussion and a strong electrical feed should free them up, then repeated use should get them working reliably again.