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ian505050
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PostPosted: 19:05 - 28 May 2013    Post subject: Went with MCE insurance - T&C's are shit Reply with quote

After reading the massive issue the guy had on here recently messing up his insurance details i thought i would read through my MCE policy and make sure its correct and covers what it had advertised on go compare and make sure my details were all correct.

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1.) My policy had personal injury cover stated on go compare ticked

The policy details confirm that permanent total disablement would result in a maximum payout of not 1 million pounds but......... £1000 WTF?

2.)My policy had helmet and protective gear cover

The policy states that the maximum cover is up to £350, WTF. My gear easily costs twice that and i am sure many people who buy decent gear spend far more than that.

3.) I decided that i would take out the courtesy bike cover, i assumed like for like for the time my bike was being repaired.

MCE terms state courtesy motorcycle up to 125cc for maximum of 5 days. Well what a load of shit, how the am i going to get to work on the motorway using a 125cc bike? It will take 5 days to get to work and the cover will have run out before i can get home.

4.) I decided not to tick the box that says the bikes data tagged as i dont have the paperwork to prove this.

They have decided to tick the box on my insurance documents saying that i have my bike data tagged and if i was to claim they would need proof. I can confirm that i still have my go compare quote which shows that i did not tick this box.

5.) The date shown on the policy documents does not match the date i provided on go compare.

6.)The policy decides to inform me that i can not use the Nurburgring which rules out the trip i was planning later this year.

I thought MCE described themselves as an insurer designer for bikers. The terms and conditions seem to be the most anti-biker terms and conditions i have ever seen on a motorcycle policy.

Oh and i have had several calls from them since buying the policy simply advertising crap i don't want.

Just thought i would warn anyone so they dont fall for the trick with the personal injury , helmet and leathers and bike hire lack of cover they have advertised.
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PostPosted: 19:11 - 28 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome to the Club, never gonna go near them again. Shame they pull in loads of custom through sponsoring MCN and BSB etc etc
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PostPosted: 19:18 - 28 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Supermoto_Fan wrote:
Welcome to the Club, never gonna go near them again. Shame they pull in loads of custom through sponsoring MCN and BSB etc etc


I cant believe that they legally can advertise personal injury cover and have a maximum payout of £1000.

I did a word count on all the words in there policy documents and its over half a million words, lol. Not sure how long it would take to read it all word for word and understand every sentence.
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PostPosted: 19:19 - 28 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Didn't read terms before taking out a policy..

Moans about it at a later date on tthe internets... Wink

It's amazing that people don't read through say insurance and contract phone contracts, but I'm sure these same people wouldn't think twice about going through say a mortgage or tenancy agreement, or an employment contract with a fine tooth comb...

The bottom line is, never assume when you are entering any form of contract, no matter how trivial the type of contract may seem, as you have found, you are under covered, it could have been much worse...
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PostPosted: 19:40 - 28 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

kernow24 wrote:
Didn't read terms before taking out a policy..

Moans about it at a later date on tthe internets... Wink

It's amazing that people don't read through say insurance and contract phone contracts, but I'm sure these same people wouldn't think twice about going through say a mortgage or tenancy agreement, or an employment contract with a fine tooth comb...

The bottom line is, never assume when you are entering any form of contract, no matter how trivial the type of contract may seem, as you have found, you are under covered, it could have been much worse...


I did read the terms that were available to me prior to purchasing the quotation. I also have started reading the terms available to me after purchase of the policy.

They provide far more T+C in you policy that they do available to download from the website prior to policy purchase. Thats why they legally have to have sensible cancellation fee(£32.00 i think).

Plus your a sad cunt and probably work for the DVLA and a volunteer as traffic warden in your spare time.



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PostPosted: 19:43 - 28 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

What do decent insurance companies pay out if you crash and end up in a wheelchair?
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PostPosted: 20:07 - 28 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm with MCE, I didn't read the terms and conditions, I don't plan to read the terms and conditions... I don't really plan on having to claim, or anything that means having to contact them any time in the near future either.

Unfortunately the law states I need to have insurance to use my vehicles, and at the time they gave the cheapest quotes, at the end of the year I'll have a look through the various companies and go with the cheapest again, and carry on doing that in the hopes that I never need to claim.

As for the personal injury thing, isn't there quite a lot of no win no fee solicitors out there that will deal with all that stuff for you anyway?
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PostPosted: 20:37 - 28 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

But whatnot there's no one to blame for your crash and you end up losing a limb etc ?
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PostPosted: 21:43 - 28 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lyam wrote:
But whatnot there's no one to blame for your crash and you end up losing a limb etc ?


Take out general (non motorcycle) life insurance that includes permanent disability insurance. The younger you are when you start the policy the better (cheaper).
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PostPosted: 21:57 - 28 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

It seems to me that MSE aren't offering personal injury or gear cover in any real terms. However by adding even a small amount of cover for these items it allows their policy to tick the appropriate boxes and thus come up on the comparison websites.

So the lesson here is by all means use the comparison sites but check anything that's important to you with the company you will actually be giving your money to before taking out the policy.
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PostPosted: 22:15 - 28 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

i am with mce... the reason i choose them was because they were the cheapest (apart from another insurer but the excess would of been 1500.. rather than 750 with mce) but reading what everyone has put.. it is now very clear why they are cheaper than the rest.. lets hope we will never have to make a claim!
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PostPosted: 22:21 - 28 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gone with cheapest and not read the fine print too.. If I wanted to be really nicely insured with backups, its 3 grand for a single bike...compare that to £980..for 2 bikes. I know the deal I got won't cover me very well if I fuck up, but that's the gamble for me. With roads filled with mental drivers, isn't it a Russian roulette anyway?
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PostPosted: 22:49 - 28 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

They're all a bunch of crucking fooks, which is why I will only pay for the bare minimum 3rd party indemnity required by law.
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PostPosted: 22:51 - 28 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had Third party fire and theft, my bike got stolen on the 3rd of jan 2012, they paid out on the 8th of February 2013!! Didn't matter what I did they just kept fucking up, asked for crime reference number 8 times! Asked for copies of my driving license about 6 times. Asked for the keys and logbook 3 times before they realized they did in fact have it. Steer clear of MCE, not worth being a cheapskate.
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PostPosted: 23:12 - 28 May 2013    Post subject: Re: Went with MCE insurance - T&C's are shit Reply with quote

ian505050 wrote:
6.)The policy decides to inform me that i can not use the Nurburgring which rules out the trip i was planning later this year.


Every vehicle insurance policy I've had over the last 3-4 years have specifically named the Nurburgring as a non insured road.

[Pub Law]

There was some loophole a while back where the policy would state that the policy holder was not covered on a racetrack but seeing as the Nurburging had a speed limit on one small section it was technically classed as a one way toll road. It seems insurers wised-up to that and started naming the Nurburgring in policies to eradicate any doubt whatsoever.

You can get trackday insurance for the 'ring otherwise just don't crash there...

[/Pub Law]

As far as everything else goes - check the small print when the documents are sent through. There's usually a 14 day cooling off period where you can cancel with no penalty or a very small charge but after that you can't really blame the insurance company for you not checking your documents are correct.

I thought things like courtesy bikes, personal injury payments and gear compensation were claimed from the party at fault in an accident so the quoted amounts on the policy would only apply if you fell off on your own and claimed. Obviously there's exceptions like if you're hit by an un-insured driver or whatever but you catch my drift I'm sure.
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PostPosted: 00:59 - 29 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I never buy cover for gear or personal injury, if someone hits me, you get all of the money and stuff anyway... So no real hardship and i'll never claim if i smash a bike up or have it stolen.
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PostPosted: 02:03 - 29 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm on TPF&T.. I always go for the cheapest quotes. I would go for TPO if it was cheaper, but somehow all my TPF&T quotes were cheaper than TPO ones.

To insure ZX6R it cost £80 per year Cool I didn't read most of the T&Cs.
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PostPosted: 06:47 - 29 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

OP. If it was less than 14 days ago I'd just cancel and go with someone else, those terms are daft as fook
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PostPosted: 07:14 - 29 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shinigami wrote:
OP. If it was less than 14 days ago I'd just cancel and go with someone else, those terms are daft as fook

Not quite. Tell them that they've chosen to offer a contract that doesn't match the agreed terms on which they quoted. You're not cancelling, they're failing to deliver.

Word that as a complaint, tell them that if they have any thoughts about withholding a fee then you'll be straight on to the Ombudsman at their expense.
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PostPosted: 07:20 - 29 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I Kind of see where the OP is coming from with this. I had insurance last year with Swinton and despite telling them my bike was kept in the residential car park behind my house I discovered upon receiving my paperwork that my bike wasn't insured if left outside within 150m of my house. They then spent the next year sending me with spam e-mail's, constant phone calls about services I didn't want even when I asked politely to be taken from all mailing lists.

The final straw was when I got a phone call telling me my insurance was up for renewal. I had completely forgot about it being due so asked for a quote which seemed 3 times higher than it was the previous year. I asked when it was due since I was at work and I had no access to my paperwork. I was told it ran out at mid-day and advised I renew. I argued about the price increase and they fiddled the figures and dropped it by £50 and then offered me a further £50 cash back after 30 days.

It all sounded a bit crap to me, so went home and checked my policy that night (believing I had ridden home uninsured) to discover I had 20 days running on the policy! I went straight on a comparison site and got insurance cheaper than the previous year saving easily £200. I read all the T&C's (learning my lesson) and my insurance cover's everything I need including riding other bikes. Sadly Its with Hastings who I know someone on here had problems with but I've had no problems so far and hope I don't ever need them- again really just fulfilling my obligation to have insurance.

Swinton called my back and words were exchanged. Never again!
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PostPosted: 08:19 - 29 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was with MCE for three years (I think). 1st experience was a joke. After that it was a lot easier. Possibly personnel issues at MCE Mission Control.
There was no real issue after the first but any attempt to communicate with them via their email will result in zero response. It was always neccessary for me to call the idiots.

I lost it with them last renewal when I was looking for my proof of NCD. They got all stupid about sending me that until the policy expires.
The other fcukers I recently told to do one have T&C for renewal stating they will only issue Proof of NCD thirty days after a policy expires. This makes complication to renew with another broker. (Though most will call the last insurer for Proof of NCD.)

For some sad reason MCE premiums for me have shot through the roof so that was the main reason I dumped them.

BUT I HEARD HASTINGS ARE A REALLY NASTY OUTFIT TOO. Very Happy

Just seen this

https://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/News/newsresults/General-news/2013/April/Warning-of-Motorcycle-Insurance-Creeping-Clauses/
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PostPosted: 09:59 - 29 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Walloper wrote:
https://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/News/newsresults/General-news/2013/April/Warning-of-Motorcycle-Insurance-Creeping-Clauses/

You see, you unfortunately plumped for our 'Neverpay' policy.
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PostPosted: 10:01 - 29 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm with Bike Devil (they belong to MCE) and when I changed my plate over to my private one I think it was something like £11.
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PostPosted: 10:21 - 29 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was with MCE last year. Never had an issue, don't think I ever changed anything though.

With Premium Choice now, as said, they're all the same, just different colours.
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PostPosted: 10:42 - 29 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I always read the Ts&Cs but I almost always go with the cheapest policy. I secure my bikes properly and the only one I would ever maybe claim on if it was stolen is the 6R as it's worth over a grand, unlike the rest of my collection.

Maggot wrote:
To insure ZX6R it cost £80 per year Cool I didn't read most of the T&Cs.

I hate you Evil or Very Mad I got hit by a man in a van a month after I passed my test (2 years ago) and this bumps up things to about £550 Crying or Very sad
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