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ttboy1988
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PostPosted: 14:30 - 04 Jun 2013    Post subject: Giving up biking - worried about hearing loss Reply with quote

I just want to know what you guys think, i have been riding a 125 for about 2 years. Nice little bike not that fast but hehh it does the job.

a month a go i passed my bike test and got my self a 600cc bike. I am not complaining about the bike.

The thing that worries me is the hearing loss which i have been reading about plus i dont have lots of money to spend on expensive gear as well. I got a textile jacket, textile trousers and gloves and all that. That was all ok on a 125 cc, but on a 600cc i need to fork out more and more money for leathers and better helmet and ear protection.

I just cant afford fork out for expensive leather and helmet for 400 odd quid. After my last journey to Birmingham (240 miles round trip) and back my ears are slightly whining.

I am just thinking about my finance and hearing loss, I am planning to sell my bike and get a car. Since i have my licence already i can buy a bike later if really want to providing that finance in order.


Anyone else had this worry, i wasnt prepared for a bike bike financially i think. I am really worried about hearing loss as well
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PostPosted: 14:36 - 04 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Earplugs are cheap, and surely coming off a 125 hurts just the same as on a bigger bike?
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PostPosted: 14:39 - 04 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wear earplugs like everyone else. These are by far the best I've found:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B002CWLMTW/ref=asc_df_B002CWLMTW13511528?smid=AZQ282NZ69M4F&tag=hydra0b-21&linkCode=asn&creative=22218&creativeASIN=B002CWLMTW&hvpos=1o2&hvexid=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=607616518652318179&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=
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PostPosted: 14:40 - 04 Jun 2013    Post subject: Re: Giving up biking - worried about hearing loss Reply with quote

ttboy1988 wrote:
I just want to know what you guys think, i have been riding a 125 for about 2 years. Nice little bike not that fast but hehh it does the job.

a month a go i passed my bike test and got my self a 600cc bike. I am not complaining about the bike.

The thing that worries me is the hearing loss which i have been reading about plus i dont have lots of money to spend on expensive gear as well. I got a textile jacket, textile trousers and gloves and all that. That was all ok on a 125 cc, but on a 600cc i need to fork out more and more money for leathers and better helmet and ear protection.

I just cant afford fork out for expensive leather and helmet for 400 odd quid. After my last journey to Birmingham (240 miles round trip) and back my ears are slightly whining.

I am just thinking about my finance and hearing loss, I am planning to sell my bike and get a car. Since i have my licence already i can buy a bike later if really want to providing that finance in order.


Anyone else had this worry, i wasnt prepared for a bike bike financially i think. I am really worried about hearing loss as well


Oh come on, who told you you HAVE to have leathers on a bigger bike?! I don't. Mr Yaigi doesn't and he's been riding for 10 years. Good quality textiles are fine, yes leathers are 'nice to have' and provide a bit more protection should you go sliding down the road but they're not an absolutely must have. Plus they're not waterproof.

As for hearing loss - also something Mr Yaigi is worried about, but in 10 years of riding he's found a decent set of earplugs and a scarf (of the circular variety, not one that will flow behind you and likely cause an accident!) has cut the wind noise down enough for him to not sustain any crazy amount of damage. Some ringing after long motorway journeys but nothing permanent. I've found my £150 helmet and a scarf do me fine, haven't even bothered with earplugs yet.

Anyway, will a car not cost you more in fuel, insurance and tax?!
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PostPosted: 14:42 - 04 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I only managed 4 months after passing my test without going for earplugs.
How the fuck you've managed 2 years, I'll never know Laughing
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PostPosted: 14:42 - 04 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hearing loss is preventable using 15p earplugs. Textiles don't give a shit what cc your bike is, I use textiles on a 600 every day.

Sounds like bullshit to me, I'm reckoning you don't like the scary 600 because it makes your arse pucker when you open the throttle Laughing . If that is the case, flog it and buy something you are comfortable with.
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PostPosted: 14:42 - 04 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

A bag of roll-up ear plugs from Halfrauds costs me £6 or so and last several months (a pair a week or so).

I can't actually ride any longer without earplugs. If I forget, I stall at the first set of lights or give-way line because I'm not used to hearing the engine loudly.
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PostPosted: 14:44 - 04 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

LordShaftesbury wrote:



I quite like those. However being tight (and poor) I like my "disposable" earplugs to be washable for a few times to make them last longer. Those lose their "memory foaminess" when washed about twice making them impossible to fit Laughing .

The plain orange ones by 3M can be washed pretty much indefinitely Wink .


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Actual "reusable" earplugs are the worst thing in the world. I bought 3 different styles, figured I choose the best and stick with them. All of them pressurised my cranium on insertion and sucked my brains out on removal, they act like a piston in your ear canal. Very unpleasant and not remedied by being slow or twisting them.


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PostPosted: 14:54 - 04 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ear plugs are ridiculously cheap.

I got my 2 piece AGV leathers from eBay for £20. Fantastic condition, fit me perfectly.

Stop whining you little pussy.
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PostPosted: 14:55 - 04 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you do a lot of motorway driving, get a massive screen, wind-blast a thing of the past.. I also find listening to music helps as the ear phones block the noise.

or just...

Enjoy the sound of the wind and the engine on the 600..
It will be better than hearing your wife bitch'in at you.
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PostPosted: 15:01 - 04 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Enjoy the tinnitus too for the rest of your life.

I use 3m push-ins.

These are washable, re-usable and you don't have to roll them up with your fingers. £25 for a hundred which will last a very long time:

https://www.protecdirect.co.uk/Disposable-Ear-Plugs/E.A.R.-Push-Ins-Reusable-Ear-Plugs.htm
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PostPosted: 15:01 - 04 Jun 2013    Post subject: Re: Giving up biking - worried about hearing loss Reply with quote

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Oh come on, who told you you HAVE to have leathers on a bigger bike?! I don't. Mr Yaigi doesn't and he's been riding for 10 years. Good quality textiles are fine, yes leathers are 'nice to have' and provide a bit more protection should you go sliding down the road but they're not an absolutely must have. Plus they're not waterproof.

As for hearing loss - also something Mr Yaigi is worried about, but in 10 years of riding he's found a decent set of earplugs and a scarf (of the circular variety, not one that will flow behind you and likely cause an accident!) has cut the wind noise down enough for him to not sustain any crazy amount of damage. Some ringing after long motorway journeys but nothing permanent. I've found my £150 helmet and a scarf do me fine, haven't even bothered with earplugs yet.

Anyway, will a car not cost you more in fuel, insurance and tax?!


I can stick with my textiles thats not a problem, i belive that the jacket is a bit too big for me and at high speeds it flaps around a lots,

the reason i havent got ear plugs all this time is i was always doing short journeys on my ybr 125 and never really do like 60mph, maybe once in a while. So i felt that ive never needed them. I had to buy a new helmet, being an idiot i went and bought my self a frank thomas piece of rubbish tat. it was worse than my previous hjc helmet, which was bigger on my head but way quieter. This one lets is so much wind.

How do we use a Scarf to block the noise?

In terms buying a car, i am just thinking that it will be more convenient and more user friendly


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PostPosted: 15:02 - 04 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

DrDonnyBrago wrote:
I quite like those. However being tight (and poor) I like my "disposable" earplugs to be washable for a few times to make them last longer.

I've never come across that problem ... probably because I don't wash 'em! Laughing

I've a pair I must have used 100 times. You'd never know they didn't used to be anything but brown ...
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PostPosted: 15:03 - 04 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Been riding for 3 years now, not needed ear plugs.....

what kind of helmet have you got?
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PostPosted: 15:08 - 04 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, to sum up:

Grow a pair. And buy earplugs. And go on eBay and get some secondhand leathers.
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PostPosted: 15:12 - 04 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

J4mes wrote:
Been riding for 3 years now, not needed ear plugs.....

what kind of helmet have you got?


You'll need your hearing when you're in your dotage. Better think about that now.
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PostPosted: 15:14 - 04 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

J4mes wrote:
Been riding for 3 years now, not needed ear plugs.....

what kind of helmet have you got?


I got a frank thomas piece of crap, lol probably the worst helmet int he world.
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PostPosted: 15:15 - 04 Jun 2013    Post subject: Re: Giving up biking - worried about hearing loss Reply with quote

ttboy1988 wrote:


I can stick with my textiles thats not a problem, i belive that the jacket is a bit too big for me and at high speeds it flaps around a lots,

the reason i havent got ear plugs all this time is i was always doing short journeys on my ybr 125 and never really do like 60mph, maybe once in a while. So i felt that ive never needed them. I had to buy a new helmet, being an idiot i went and bought my self a frank thomas piece of rubbish tat. it was worse than my previous hjc helmet, which was bigger on my head but way quieter. This one lets is so much wind.

How do we use a Scarf to block the noise?


If you have a snugly fitting scarf it will stop the wind noise coming up through the bottom of your helmet - much like the chin guards things many helmets have, only I've found a combo of both to be most effective.

Sell jacket, get better fitting one.

Buy earplugs.

If this is too much effort for you then your heart isn't in it.

ttboy1988 wrote:
In terms buying a car, i am just thinking that it will be more convenient and more user friendly


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PostPosted: 15:18 - 04 Jun 2013    Post subject: Re: Giving up biking - worried about hearing loss Reply with quote

ttboy1988 wrote:
I just cant afford fork out for expensive leather and helmet for 400 odd quid.


Why would you put a different value on the safety of your head / amount you'd spend on a lid, when riding two different sized bikes ? Confused

You is gonna be maimed on any cc bike if it all goes wrong.

As mentioned above, accept your lack of testicles and buy a nice safe cage. Laughing Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 15:22 - 04 Jun 2013    Post subject: Re: Giving up biking - worried about hearing loss Reply with quote

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ttboy1988 wrote:
I just cant afford fork out for expensive leather and helmet for 400 odd quid.


Why would you put a different value on the safety of your head / amount you'd spend on a lid, when riding two different sized bikes ?


The same reason that people think a £400 helmet will save their head where a £40 one won't - they haven't thought it through properly.
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PostPosted: 15:22 - 04 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

LordShaftesbury wrote:


Those oxford branded ones are the same product as these: 20 pairs for £2.70

They stand up to rinsing off and re-using pretty well, I tend to throw them away after a week or so though.

I either have them in every journey or I'll have my ear-bud headphones in for music which do the same job Smile
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PostPosted: 15:32 - 04 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Would sticking two pieces of memory foam inside the helmet were the ears are position a decent idea?
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PostPosted: 15:33 - 04 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you want to buy a car, buy a car, but please don't demean yourself by making such ridiculous excuses to justify your decision.

First, car insurance will cost you how much?

Silicone putty = £3.40 delivered on eBay, enough to make 2 pairs of custom earplugs.

Helmet skirts cost from £10 delivered and cut down on wind noise substantially.

While you're on there, you may notice plenty of used leathers for sale. Also try Gumtree, where you can pick up some genuine local bargains for less than a tank of fuel.
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PostPosted: 15:35 - 04 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

illuminateTHEmind wrote:
Would sticking two pieces of memory foam inside the helmet were the ears are position a decent idea?


No as they won't plug your ear sufficiently. Just buy ear plugs if you value your hearing or consistently ride more than 5 minutes.
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