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 Posted: 13:58 - 04 Jun 2013 Post subject: Ducatis not as bad as their reputation. |
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Just putting the finishing touches to a 1995 600 Monster. Its been stood, none too well protected, for eight years in a seaside environment. Sure the alloy had furred, engine cases a bit sad, canker on the wheels and the carbs... well, they were welded shut with old crud.
But, a week or so with it all stripped to the last bolt, all allen head and of good quality in that they all came out with little bother.
Replaced the timing belts, of course, a job I thought would be the same struggle as the Firestorm. Ten minutes later, belts on, no hassle, all timing marks clear and simple.
I was told that the charging system had a problem, and to be honest, a single phase alternator did not fill me with confidence, all is fine and hunky dory, charges a treat.
In fact, this has been the absolutely easiest, most straightforward, logical of all the builds I have done.
Even the wiring harness that seems to get slagged is of far better quality than a Jap equivalent, all connectors having an accordian type seal between each half, not left open to the elements.
In fact, the small number of tools required would make one of these an ideal learning process for a newby, lots of spares at very reasonable prices, can't see why they are treated with such suspicion. BTW, the engine makes nice noises, must sound superb with less restrictive silencers. ____________________ The CBR900RR has been sold. Aprilia Falco worms its way into my heart.
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| Walloper |
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I don't think they are as bad as folk say. They did have electrics issues but even that could be the jealow engine working OT. Some folk hate some stuff just because they huvnay got one.
Dealers aye seem near enough. But I don't own a Ducatti.  ____________________ W-ireless A-rtificial L-ifeform L-imited to O-bservation P-eacekeeping and E-fficient R-epair |
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mid 90s Ducati started using a Japanese wiring loom and double insulated it due to the flack they were getting for their wiring.
Most of the "Ducatis are unreliable" rubbish comes from a mates brothers uncle who had one, and it was always in the garage broken because it was poorly maintained and left to sit unused.
I've done 6k miles in about 3 years in all weathers, including snow, it is used regularly, 6k doesn't seem like a lot, but I use it most weekends but I don't do massive mileage between destinations.
Oddly, it did just fail it's mot and I took great pleasure in telling the MOT tester "Actually the wiring loom is Japanese made, and like most Jap stuff it is shit and falls apart, everything Italian on this bike has passed, but that broken loom is Jap"
I assume you have changed the belts before you started it? Don't run it any more until those belts and tensioners are done, 2 years is max life of them, anything after is borrowed time. ____________________ Stinkwheel: You have no right to free speech
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I have a nice reliable bike with stellar mileage, wouldn't trade or sell it, but I'd not own another Aprilia due to the issues I had with them, Ducati however, seem to be fairly decent in comparison.
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| pits wrote: | mid 90s Ducati started using a Japanese wiring loom and double insulated it due to the flack they were getting for their wiring.
Most of the "Ducatis are unreliable" rubbish comes from a mates brothers uncle who had one, and it was always in the garage broken because it was poorly maintained and left to sit unused.
I've done 6k miles in about 3 years in all weathers, including snow, it is used regularly, 6k doesn't seem like a lot, but I use it most weekends but I don't do massive mileage between destinations.
Oddly, it did just fail it's mot and I took great pleasure in telling the MOT tester "Actually the wiring loom is Japanese made, and like most Jap stuff it is shit and falls apart, everything Italian on this bike has passed, but that broken loom is Jap"
I assume you have changed the belts before you started it? Don't run it any more until those belts and tensioners are done, 2 years is max life of them, anything after is borrowed time. |
6k miles is genuinely nothing. I do that in 3 and a half months. Put 20-30k on it and see what happens.  ____________________ KAWASAKIIIII |
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I missed the 6k in 3 years.
The poor Varadero has done 12k in 7 months and still going strong at 74k so fair play to it, but then again, it is supposed to be a learner proof 125, not an expensive, tasty Italian sports bike  |
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Change the oil loads and make sure its not leaking. Sorted.
Mines burning no oil, gets a change every 1k or monthly, whichever is hit first and gets next to no other servicing.
Chain will need to be done again soon, not touched for a few k, but I have a new tyre ready to go on, so 2 birds 1 stone  |
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Plenty of Ducati's done 100k miles. Not had any issues with any of mine but then I don't use it for commuting ____________________ Bikes : 2006 CBR125R - 2004 Monster 620ie - 2004 ZX-6R B1H - 2005 Monster S2R 800 - 2011 Street Triple - 2009 Streetfighter 1098 - 2014 ZX-6R 636
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It is worth repeating that Ducati are producing bikes with as many faults and niggles as the the other makers. Check out a Triumph forum. Honda were once held high...depends which model and in what year. Same goes for Ducati. They put out some shoddy bikes in the 80s and into the 90s. They certainly can and produce reliable and well finished bikes too.
Mine had a reg/rec fail. For about £3 I uprated the wires and got a replacement reg/rec for £26.
It starts everytime and has been my main form of transport for 3 years.
Come on Ducatisti....Time to whore the Ducs.
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I suspect Ducati used the same paint on their cylinder heads that Honda use on some fork bottoms.
I wouldn't buy a new bike, and yes they are overpriced...but getting better at pricing them, they are not so small a company now. ____________________ Diabolical homemade music Bandcamp and Soundcloud
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