New electric bike: 0-60 in 3s, 160hp, 140 mile range

[Notj7]

Saw this: https://www.engadget.com/2013/06/04/mission-motorcycles-launches-mission-r-and-rs/

https://www.blogcdn.com/green.autoblog.com/media/2013/06/mission-r-628.jpg

From their website, the bike has:

160 hp at the rear wheel. 120 ft/lbs of torque beginning at 0 RPM. 150 mph top speed. 0-60 in under 3 seconds. ¼ mile in 10.492 seconds.

Fucking eh! check out the video in the link above, sounds like a spaceship!
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[Snorty]

Nuts, instant torque.

I'd love to have a go.
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[Polarbear]

but 140 mile range.

I do well over that at a weekend rideout.

I have nothing against electric bikes or cars but until the range is up to sensible levels they are good for nothing.
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[Nexus Icon]

Alright, we're getting somewhere near to useable range but the price!!! It's the Tesla sports car of e-bikes. Good enough to be desirable but too expensive to be economical.

Gimmicks, the both.
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[Jim Mc]

Love the look, but I'm thinking it's not quite feasible yet.

No charging bays at my office. Wonder what the range is didn't see that?

Would worry other road users wouldn't hear me when I'm filtering/overtaking.

Also I think my current bike is 118bhp its 0-100km (62mph) time is 3s. If this thing has instant torque you'd expect it to be a bit quicker?

Apart from that would snap one up in an instant.

Edit:

Just saw the 105 mile standard battery. It depends how economical they're being when testing the battery. If I hoon my bike I get a 90mile range, if I'm sensible 160mi. Still 105 mile is a significant drop.

[G]

Electric motorcycling is very feasible in many situations.

This is not a sensible solution to any of the problems it solves.

Almost £37k at US prices to get a 140 mile - and you can bet that's not 140 miles using the claimed performance it offers.

I would not expect it to be quicker to 0-60 because it's limited by physics - any decent bike can wheelie off the line. Having more torque straight away won't make you any faster.

As far as top speed goes, it seems to be single speed, so there's going to be a payoff in available power vs top speed.
More top speed means more draining batteries quickly too.

[Ariel Badger]

The TT0 bikes are dead after 37 miles.
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[Pigeon]

It's just another type of bike. It has it's own unique characteristics, such has instant torque and bombing along with almost no noise...that would be weird the first few times.

But there's something about combustion. Living creatures died millions of years ago, thousands of people spent billions and worked for years to extract the sludge, only to transport it 1/2 round the world, pass it through an enormous chemistry set, transport it round the country, just so I can put it in my tank and cause it to explode 2,000 times a minute.

That being said, it's a finite resource that is in pretty much everything. So setting fire to it is perhaps not the most sensible thing.
Good fun though And comparatively economical.

[Cheeseybeaner]

I suppose its potential feasibility depends on how long the charging time is! Heard of an electric car scheme using petrol stations in France where you'd just leave their drained battery with them and they'd give you a freshly charged one in exchange then on you travel. Doubt it would be that simple with the bikes for a while though.
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[Deucalion]

Not claiming any specialist knowledge here but surely bikes lend themselves to electric power far more than cars do. Bikes are very efficient in the weight they carry.

I think an electric commuter bike is a very real possibility in the near future. I read something somewhere recently that there was a breakthrough in battery technology.

Maybe the future C90 will be an E90?

Maybe we should patent it?
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[Ariel Badger]

I was at the Brighton Speed Trials a few years ago and they had a pair of Teslas competing. The paddock marshalls made them bang on the horn when they moved them as they were going to run someone over being so quiet.
There is a reason why god made the internal combustion engine noisy.
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[Deucalion]

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[Deucalion]

So is electric the next big thing which is currently in it's infancy, or is there something new around the corner to replace fossil fuels?

Apparently hydrogen makes an efficient fuel but is difficult to manufacture or harvest. Or maybe fossil fuels can be make far more efficient?

Things cannot go backwards, we are not going to start walking or riding horses everywhere.

What will turn out to be the new internal combustion engine?
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[Ariel Badger]

20 L (20kg) of liquid fuel gets you around the TT twice and a 100Kg battery pack will get you around once. Electricity is a very heavy fuel.
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[Turkish]

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[colin1]

For electric vehicles, I think the best model, is a low power engine charging the small battery, with high torque motor(s) driving the wheel(s).

That way, you can have cheap energy dense fuel providing the energy, instead of big heavy expensive low range batteries.

For a vehicle that is 100% electric, I think in town commuter bikes are far more practical than electric cars, but bit of a niche market.
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[WindyMiller]

[P.addy]

140 mile range is a nice weekend jaunt for me, not up to munch miles at the weekends.

I like it, but yeah, double the range or triple it..

[Scootaloo]

Ok, so the summary for this thread could be...

"Nearly there, Nearly there"

or

"Are we there yet?!"
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[Notj7]