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PostPosted: 20:14 - 17 Jun 2013    Post subject: Garage security Reply with quote

Thinking of moving to a new flat soon, going to have a garage a bit like this
https://media.rightmove.co.uk/4k/3513/24198003/3513_PAR120606_IMG_06_0000_max_620x414.JPG

Anyone know of any security devices to recommend to secure the door. Was thinking of something like this but didnt know how effective and reliable they really are.
https://www.safelocks.co.uk/acatalog/garage_defender.jpg

Don't want to walk out one morning and find the local chavs have had the door up and all my gear and bikes are in pieces on ebay Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: 20:45 - 17 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

If they want it, they'll have it, but it'll slow down the determined and deter the casual. Although it may highlight the fact you have something of value in the garage.
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PostPosted: 20:49 - 17 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Motion sensor laser-gun is always an option i guess Mad
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PostPosted: 20:50 - 17 Jun 2013    Post subject: Re: Garage security Reply with quote

eitematt wrote:
https://www.safelocks.co.uk/acatalog/garage_defender.jpg


Hey guys, look at me, I've got something valuable inside!
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PostPosted: 20:52 - 17 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a Garage Defender, have done for 10 years now, they would need serious cutting kit and make a lot of noise to get past it, well worth the money and its a visual deterrent. Make sure the base is in concrete.
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PostPosted: 21:00 - 17 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldnt have anything external showing value with. I'd reinforce the door with scaffold poles, rebar mesh or simila materials affixed, welded etc to the existing frame. Then dead bolts top bottom and sides. How secure is the roof?
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PostPosted: 02:38 - 18 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks mark useful to hear of experience with the defender. As a few mentioned i was also worried in some ways as it obviously does highlight probably valuable contents, but on the other hand - if its anyway like where i'm living currently an unsecured door sooner or later WILL get opened and pi--ed inside/burned/vandelised in some form or another along with the contents of the garage Mad

The problem with the garage is its a one door entry only [front main door], so the internal security like dead-bolts etc i presume wouldn't be suitable, or am i misunderstanding how you install/access them Confused

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PostPosted: 03:43 - 18 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Horizontal bolts could be easily linked to a rotating handle in the center. Vertical bolts could be set up like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9hSp2FClIA

using some type of long life battery to power them hooked up to a simple key fob.

Looked into this a wee while ago when i was offered a garage that i eventually didnt get.

Im sure the tech dudes on here would assist on a project like this just out of curiosity of the outcome.
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PostPosted: 04:34 - 18 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have the same type of garage and they are remarkably easy to break in to. that lock pictured is a good one, go for that. if you want more security you could put padlocks and bolts high up. no point putting them low as a bolt cutters can easily be used.

I wouldn't worry about the lock advertising that you have something worth stealing as locals will eventually see you going in and out of there at some point. I could break in to the garage as standard in less than 10 seconds.

I may be worth using a disk alarm aswell as inside the garage it will be loud as hell.

you could build a proper cage front just inside out of steel bars jail style, but it would be a lot of work
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PostPosted: 06:54 - 18 Jun 2013    Post subject: Re: Garage security Reply with quote

J.M. wrote:
eitematt wrote:
https://www.safelocks.co.uk/acatalog/garage_defender.jpg


Hey guys, look at me, I've got something valuable inside!


Just hit me a few times with a sledge hammer and you can have it all.
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PostPosted: 08:15 - 18 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a garage defender, I bought it after my garage in a block was broken into.

The policeman who came around said he had never seen a garage with a garage defender successfully opened. I reinforced the bottom edge of my garage door with 1" box section steel too, and I've also got a hasp and tang padlock bolted to the floor as a double deterrent.

I doubt you'd get past the garage defender with a sledgehammer. Maybe with hydraulic cutters or an angle grinder, but at the end of the day if they can break the garage defender they can break anything. I've also got a xena alarmed chain looped through all of my bikes inside.
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PostPosted: 08:17 - 18 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Run electric to the garage and move in.

The only way to stop people from stealing your shit.
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PostPosted: 09:37 - 18 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks again for all the info Thumbs Up

Looks like ill be turning the place into a bank vault then Laughing
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PostPosted: 09:48 - 18 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

fishing wire and rape alarms, home alone style.
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PostPosted: 11:31 - 18 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Should keep thieves at bay:

https://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS_UTZtDDdm2LGOwhKvWhGyHhDxPMKxvdWGC_zoP1XmCNFtaLUJOLATkXCcSA
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PostPosted: 11:33 - 18 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got that side of things covered
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-fUvNRrJo7yM/TiMbNV0-2_I/AAAAAAAAB2k/MWq1eF05HUQ/s1600/Don%25E2%2580%2599t+Ever+Gives+a+Loaded+Gun+to+Monkey.jpg
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PostPosted: 11:42 - 18 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Garage door bolts would be better. Fitted to the inside of the door makes it a secure, hidden locking setup.


https://www.lockmonster.co.uk/images/products/1985/images/Pacri%20Garage%20Door%20Bolts%201%20Pair.jpg[/list]
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PostPosted: 11:42 - 18 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Enfield-Garage-Door-Bolt-Locks-MK-II-/321037048220

Not very noticeable from the outside. Used in addition to a defender or other padlocks and hasps and you're a long way on from a standard door.

Edit: Speed beat me to it.
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PostPosted: 11:58 - 18 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

As quoted above, those old 70's style garage doors are easy to get into at the bottom corners by basically peeling them back.

Brother lost a load of power tools etc using that method.
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PostPosted: 12:02 - 18 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those bolts are shit, had those and the door was bent at each corner where the bolts were. Since then I've had a garage defender for the past six years, at two different addresses and haven't been broken into.
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PostPosted: 12:57 - 18 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
Those bolts are shit, had those and the door was bent at each corner where the bolts were. Since then I've had a garage defender for the past six years, at two different addresses and haven't been broken into.


So did the bolts fail, or was the garage door made of tinfoil?
I would've thought that a defender in the middle of the door would still allow the corner to be bent up and tools robbed, but I guess the door can't be opened.
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PostPosted: 13:02 - 18 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

jnw010 wrote:
Ste wrote:
Those bolts are shit, had those and the door was bent at each corner where the bolts were. Since then I've had a garage defender for the past six years, at two different addresses and haven't been broken into.


So did the bolts fail, or was the garage door made of tinfoil?
I would've thought that a defender in the middle of the door would still allow the corner to be bent up and tools robbed, but I guess the door can't be opened.


That's why I reinforced the bottom of my door with 1" box section which coincidentally fitted perfectly in the little U shaped recess in the bottom of the door.

I've seen those bolts before, and as they generally mount onto the sheet metal of the door rather than the framework, the tea leaves just cut around them. The garage defender is the best option as far as I can tell.
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PostPosted: 13:08 - 18 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

jnw010 wrote:
So did the bolts fail, or was the garage door made of tinfoil?
I would've thought that a defender in the middle of the door would still allow the corner to be bent up and tools robbed, but I guess the door can't be opened.


The door was bent due to being made of tinfoil.

Bending the corners of the door is for the purpose of opening the door rather than to steal tools that are within reach. The garage defender prevents the door from being opened so the bending of corners doesn't happen.
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PostPosted: 15:49 - 18 Jun 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Would it be simpler instead of faffing with reinforcements/bolts and the rest to maybe just get two garage defenders one either side, or do they have to be position in the centre of te door Confused Obviously might look a bit o.t.t but would at least make the door virtually inpenetrable wouldnt it Laughing

Probably find they rent the garage next door and tunnel down and up through the floor having done that mind Rolling Eyes
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