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 Posted: 21:44 - 18 Jun 2013 Post subject: bike chain space between sprocket and chain |
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Hi All,
While adjusting my chain, I took a picture of my chain which shows that you can almost stick a screw drive between the sprocket and the chain despite the chain having only 20 to 25 mm of play
This is the case on my 125 but not on my bigger bike
Is that normal ?
Here is a pic for your information
https://i40.tinypic.com/jueqgg.jpg ____________________ SV650 Red
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It's normal when the chain/sprocket is worn
Before chain wear stickers started appearing on some bikes and weighting the chain and measuring a specific number of links became De rigeur,
the old rule of thumb was that if a pencil could fit into the gap it was time for replacement. |
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| stranger12 wrote: | i should say the chain had done 12k and i took 2 or think 3 links out so could get it tight again
it was streched all the way before taking links out |
Don't do that; that's a very bad idea.
The chain stretches such that the link length no longer matches the tooth pitch of the sprockets. Removing links does nothing to fix this. This mismatch in link length vs tooth pitch concentrates all the force of the engine on the first few teeth engaged, rather than all around the sprocket, meaning both the chain and sprocket wear at an accelerating rate, no matter how much you try to re-tension the chain.
So you'll be looking at missing teeth - far more likely on the front sprocket, you may have lost some already and not noticed it if you haven't removed the front sprocket cover - or a snapped chain before long. A chain in the process of snapping is no joke. It could seize the rear wheel leading to a high-side, it could eat through the engine block leading you to need to replace the engine, it could even slice into your leg, causing you to have a very bad day. ____________________ Bikes: S1000R, SH350; Exes: Vity 125, PS125, YBR125, ER6f, VFR800, Brutale 920, CB600F, SH300x4
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No, don't remove links just accommodate stretching. New chain time (and possibly sprockets). ____________________ 22PlusY
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| stranger12 wrote: | so you think that the chain links are now bigger than it was before(stretched) and thus not fitting on the sprocket ? |
Er, yes. Why do you think you needed to take links out?
A chain is a bunch of links with holes in the ends, and pins through those holes to hold the links together. "Stretching" is when those holes start to wear and get bigger. You're literally losing metal from your chain, and the bigger the holes get, the more the pins can worry at them as load comes on and off.
Stupid, messy, high maintenance archaic technology, I wish more manufacturers would fit shaft or belt drive. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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Chain like that.. with links removed?
Check your front sprocket.. it's gonna be like claws lol
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| Walloper wrote: | No teeth is dangerous?
If no teeth no go. No go no danger. Sorted.  |
I got from Germany to the UK at motorway speeds with no teeth on the front sprocket of my ER6f.
The teeth don't snap off such that they leave a smooth circle. There are normally little stumps left behind, and if the chain is tight enough, it will grip. Try to drive too much torque and the chain will skip though, so you need to take it gently. ____________________ Bikes: S1000R, SH350; Exes: Vity 125, PS125, YBR125, ER6f, VFR800, Brutale 920, CB600F, SH300x4
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 12 years, 269 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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