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AP27Racing
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PostPosted: 20:29 - 25 Jun 2013    Post subject: New Junior Road Racing Series Reply with quote
Hi all,

Just thought I would post in here to try and see if anybody would be interested in getting their Kids started in Junior Mini Grand Prix Racing? It's designed for kids aged 8 - 15 and takes place once a month over a weekend at some of the UK's best Kart Circuits. This is a genuine question as we try to gauge interest into starting t a new British Series on 4 Stroke GP bikes for next year so we can start looking at different bikes and new tracks etc (Think Moto GP Bike but smaller!)
I recently did a weekend event with my son where we showcased his bikes and received loads of interest from hundreds of parents and kids who said they would love to get involved but didn't know the sport existed. It's a relatively cheap and competitive sport and as I'm sure you know a lot of the worlds GP/ SBK Riders all started on the Mini GP bikes. I have photos of the bikes that I can post if anyone's interested in a look and can answer whatever questions you may have. Thanks in advance for your help. If anyone knows of anywhere else I might be able to get some advice then please let me know.
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PostPosted: 01:36 - 02 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
Sod the kids. I want a go.
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PostPosted: 18:42 - 02 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
hahaha! We've just got back from Rd 6 this weekend. What an awesome weekend! Nice and warm too. Only spoilt by a sidecar throwing its oil all over the track and then continuing to do 2 laps and covering the track completely. You can see a video of Adam at the first round held in Cardiff by following the link below. It really is a great sport for the kids and is amazing for a good father son/daughter bonding!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UTxxD07v8fE
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PostPosted: 01:08 - 03 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
Costs per event/per season?
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PostPosted: 07:40 - 03 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
suburban myth wrote:
Costs per event/per season?


Well we're looking at a few options at the moment. The preferred option will be a one off cost of approx £2,500. Their will be no profit made for any of the organisers from this. It is purely being setup to encourage more youngsters on the grid, so hopefully in the future we might see more British Riders at the top level. For this cost you will get a bike ready to race with a sealed engine, and a set of wets on wheels, plus full technical support for the season, all 8 race entries will be paid,
( there will be one a month from March-October ), a custom made one piece race suit and a Shark Helmet. So really it's the complete package minus boots & gloves! However this is something we could look at if we get the numbers. All you need to do is turn up and race! All the engines are sealed to stop any tuning, so it is purely down to who's the best racer, as all the bikes should be the same. We're considering occasionally drawing bikes from a hat at a few of the rounds to keep it fair. We are also talking very closely with the Spanish Championship to become linked with them. This will allow entrants to compete as a "Wildcard" entry in some of their rounds and vice versa. Other options involve bike only prices if people already have their own equipment. However the idea would be to make it more professional, just like the Championships on in Europe. We would want all the kids to look the same if possible kind of like a uniform, all the bikes would be the same colour and the leathers and helmets. This gives the kids a sense of belonging to a real club. We're looking at a fairly big sponsor to help out financially and call the series after their company. They would provide a small amount of financial assistance which would pay for trophies, prizes etc. The prizes won't be cash but something along the lines of a new tyre for the next Rd etc. All the kids will get a T-Shirt, Hoodie and Cap with their name and number on and we will give away a free T-Shirt for the fastest lap or something like that. We have a few ideas we're considering we just need to secure a few more numbers. It's not bad value for money though we think!
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PostPosted: 20:57 - 03 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
Are we talking mini moto here? Can't really get a scale from the photo.

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PostPosted: 21:23 - 03 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Are we talking mini moto here? Can't really get a scale from the photo.

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No - you should be able to get scale from the pit bike style engine.
Also has suspension etc.
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PostPosted: 09:56 - 04 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
fozzym wrote:
Are we talking mini moto here? Can't really get a scale from the photo.

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No their not mini motos. They're classed as Mini Grand Prix bikes and are about the same height as a pitbike. It runs the YX 140 engine which is plenty powerful enough when the bikes only weigh 67 Kg! It's got 12" wheels with Race Slicks and fully adjustable rear and front suspension. It's a reall nice bike actually. I've just this morning received an email from Spain with the latest costing and bike they're running see photo below Smile
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PostPosted: 09:58 - 04 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
I'm not sure why the photos haven't shown up?? Confused
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PostPosted: 10:49 - 04 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Seems pretty cheap for a season racing (including the rest of the consumables). I wish I could have had an opportunity at something like this when I was a kid.
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PostPosted: 11:22 - 04 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
How does it compare to a pit bike with a similar engine?

I always fancied a light weight teeny sportsy bike.
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PostPosted: 16:28 - 04 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
G wrote:
How does it compare to a pit bike with a similar engine?

I always fancied a light weight teeny sportsy bike.


Yeah I also wish I could have done it as a kid! Mind you there's lots of things they've got nowadays that weren't around then. My daughter can't get her head round that if we wanted to meet someone then you would have to arrange it ahead rather than sending a Google Pin straight to their phone! These will leave the pitbikes! It's running the same engine but that's where the similarities end! It weighs next to nothing and when coupled with a rider who only weighs about 30Kg, that just increases the performance. The Spanish claim to have speed trapped this exact bike at 149Kmh at Aragon, so around 85 ish Mph! We're really pleased with package on offer. We just need to get a few more riders now!
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PostPosted: 17:09 - 04 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
Who said anything about kids - if I can ride a minimoto at 6'/80kg, I can't look any less stupid on one of these Wink.

At 67kg your bikes are actually 2kg heavier than a M2R KX140 (off road version, couldn't find the weight for a SM).
With a kid on board, may well get better aerodynamics than a pit bike, of course.

Would expect a pit bike would probably be geared a bit lower, so if anything, would expect the pit bike to be infront until it runs out of gears from what you've said.
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PostPosted: 17:33 - 04 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
The Mini GP my lads racing at the moment is geared exactly the same as the adult 140 Pitbike class. His current bike weighs in at 92kg Confused Which is really heavy compared to the Pitbikes and he's running about 2 secs a lap slower than the adult times! You could race one of these in the 140 Pitbike class! In fact I bought my son's dry bike from an adult who'd raced it and won in this class the season before with a tuned 140 engine in it. Had to take it out though as we were all forced to run new sealed engines this year. So with nearly 25Kg of weight saving and geared the same they "Should" have the edge on the Pitbikes. I'll be selling his 2 bikes at the end of this season to buy him one of these though so if you're interested Very Happy The engine in his wet bike has only had 2Hrs 30 Mins on it
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PostPosted: 18:05 - 04 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
I do want a pit bike supermoto as it goes, whether I'll have any cash at the right time is another matter - never mind whether or not my budget meets your expectations Smile.
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PostPosted: 10:40 - 06 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
Really cool idea, I don't have a kid though.
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PostPosted: 16:21 - 06 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
Their are definitely much cheaper sports to get the kids involved in! If he'd have started football then I would have been looking at a pair of boots each season! He loves it though so what can you do!
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PostPosted: 10:38 - 10 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
Red Devil wrote:
Really cool idea, I don't have a kid though.


We can make one if you like Wub


Can pit bike supermotos come along and play? I've got a CRF50 140 on 10's.
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PostPosted: 10:41 - 10 Jul 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
Also that looks like a lot of plastic to smash up, I fall off all the time. Though I do have crappy standard suspension and I'm not exactly talented.
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