6 points on CBT

[Az]

My friend just received 6points for over taking 2 cars on a solid white line and having no L plate on the front of his 125.

Question 1: When will he receive the 6 points, is it straight away or when he goes to court

Question 2: Realisticly when will he be going to court? Can anyone tell us from personal experience how long theyve had to wait to go to court for a riding offence

Question 3: Does this mean he's banned?

Question 4: Can he have an L plate on his front mudguard? or does it have to be on a flat surface facing straight on? As he wants to now put an L plate on obviously but doesn't want it on the front of his dials or anywhere else on the bike for some reason, he just wants it on his mudguard.

Thanks in advance, Az.

Oh and just to add.. the officer said he also rides, which seems to be really common reading previous threads.. seems like all police officers ride motorcycles lol.

[J.M.]

Overtaking on solid whites, in view of a copper and on an underpowered 125? Your friend needs to improve his observational skills if he wishes to keep his license/life! Not saying that overtaking on solid whites is inherently dangerous, but they're usually there for a reason and you can't exactly quickly nip around on a 125 in most cases.

You can get 12 points on a CBT, so he shouldn't be banned.

L plate can be displayed anywhere on the front I believe (don't quote me on that bit). However it must be the correct size or he is liable for another 3 points still! So no cutting it down or anything; if you meet an arsey copper they'll still do you for it.

Don't know the answers to 1 or 2.
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[BigDan1190]

You can't get 12 points on a CBT, its a provisional license... unless he has had a car license for more than 2 years?

[Minty]

If he has been given 6 points, assuming 3 points for each offence, then the matter has been dealt with. You cannot be cconvicted of the same offence twice.

No court needed.
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[Wonko The Sane]

is he able to attach a stiff plastic L plate to the fork leg?

most training school bikes seem to have L plates fitted in this way.
Held on with zip ties

[Az]

[anthony_r6]

[smithyithy]

I had 9 points on my provisional years ago, spoke to the DVLA and police at the time as I was worried I'd lose my license, they said there's no limit to how many points you can have on a provisional, they just get carried over onto your full license, as mine did.

You lose your full license when you get 6+ NEW points on it.

That was my understanding, unless it's changed since.. I carried over 9 points when I passed and got my full license, haven't had any more since then so the 9 have expired and been removed.

[MC]

My driving instructor told me he taught someone to drive with 18 points on his provisional. Far as I understand it (checked the other day), a provisional is unlimited points wise, if you pass your test whatever points are carried over, so basically if its your first license anymore points & your banned.

Think the systems kinda stupid tbh, 6 point limit should be from the date of your CBT.
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[MC]

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That's the thing; it IS the same rule. It's just that the provisional licence holder is in a different position.
Both are in the position they have a provisional licence afterwards.

Remember a CBT is compulsory basic training intended to teach you enough of the very basics so that you can learn to pass your test.

Also, of course, it's more likely to be aimed at car drivers, where you can't drive on your own, on a provisional licence.

[SteveZZR]

From my understanding

You get 12 points, you get a ban and you lose your full entitlement. After the ban you have a provisional entitlement again.

The 6 points on a license you've held under 2 years starts from when you gain your license.

Someone I know was caught driving a cage not in terms of license and uninsured and got 6 points on her provisional. She then passed her test (prior to court date when she actually got the points). Didn't lose her license as offense was before the full license was acquired. She would have to get two 'new' offenses dated after the license was passed to lose the entitlement. Surely if provisional came under the 6 point rule she'd have been banned and license revoked as the provisional wouldn't have been valid when she passed the test.


Summary; your provisional isn't a 'new full entitlement' and the 2 years / 6 points doesn't seem to apply to it.

[Az]

Thanks for the replies!


And it's really been an unlucky day for him, he just got a punctured rear tire as well lol

[MC]

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I would suggest that the question is more 'do people abuse the cbt system' and 'is this an issue'?

I don't think it is, personally.